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 Penge Eagle  Beckenham 09 Apr 13 5.22pm |
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The good of the country, is not always the same as what is good for the people of that Country. Latest example is the austerity measures, the individual will think they are crap I know I do, but it has to happen for the good of the countries economy as a whole. We simply could not have gone on as we were, oh and on the subject of money, you know that rebate we still get from Europe who was Champion for that cause? Ted heath? Tony Benn? Tony Blair even…..not effin likely. Another mug who has been fooled by the debt defecit narrative. For another thread perhaps, but the country is no worse off than it has been for many many years. Tis just a ruse by the Tories to cut public services. I think YOU have been fooled over the deficit. Only the left are in denial over it. Have you not seen the rise under Labour? There are stats and graphs all over the internet to prove it.
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Kermit8  Hevon 09 Apr 13 5.24pm |
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It's kinda telling I think that most of the individual posters on here and the bbs - about 70 per cent - I reckon, have her down as someone who did more harm than good. Now nearly all of us old enough posters would have been in the better off South East during 1979-90. Yet still so many have her down as a negative overall. Thus, It stands to reason that the Thatcher wasn't- good -for the -UK voices in the celtic countries, the Midlands, Yorkshire and the North East - places that really did feel the full force of her economic policies - must be frighteningly higher. We can't be all wrong, can we? Edited by Kermit8 (09 Apr 2013 4.20pm)
Powercuts, winter if discontent, British Leyland none of Maggies fault. She was a leader of her time, the world had changed but the Scargills, Red Robbos etc couldn't or wouldn't see it. She did and dragged us into the 20th century. She believed in people being responsible for their own destiny, unlike the current blame everyone owes me something culture that Liebour left us with.
I hope so
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| Stirlingsays 09 Apr 13 5.28pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 5.21pm
Have a read of this...
The solution to the great depression was WW2......I'm hoping that North Korea aren't secretly looking to solve our debt crises. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Apr 2013 5.32pm)
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 09 Apr 13 5.32pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 5.21pm
Quote Stuk at 09 Apr 2013 5.04pm
Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 4.53pm
Quote dannyh at 09 Apr 2013 4.42pm
The good of the country, is not always the same as what is good for the people of that Country. Latest example is the austerity measures, the individual will think they are crap I know I do, but it has to happen for the good of the countries economy as a whole. We simply could not have gone on as we were, oh and on the subject of money, you know that rebate we still get from Europe who was Champion for that cause? Ted heath? Tony Benn? Tony Blair even…..not effin likely. Another mug who has been fooled by the debt defecit narrative. For another thread perhaps, but the country is no worse off than it has been for many many years. Tis just a ruse by the Tories to cut public services.
A book by a Liverpool Labour Councillor can hardly be seen as an unbiased view of the economy
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Apr 13 5.32pm |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 09 Apr 2013 5.22pm
Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 4.53pm
Quote dannyh at 09 Apr 2013 4.42pm
The good of the country, is not always the same as what is good for the people of that Country. Latest example is the austerity measures, the individual will think they are crap I know I do, but it has to happen for the good of the countries economy as a whole. We simply could not have gone on as we were, oh and on the subject of money, you know that rebate we still get from Europe who was Champion for that cause? Ted heath? Tony Benn? Tony Blair even…..not effin likely. Another mug who has been fooled by the debt defecit narrative. For another thread perhaps, but the country is no worse off than it has been for many many years. Tis just a ruse by the Tories to cut public services. I think YOU have been fooled over the deficit. Only the left are in denial over it. Have you not seen the rise under Labour? There are stats and graphs all over the internet to prove it.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Apr 13 5.38pm |
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What Lefties (with honourable exceptions) find so hard to forgive is the great lady’s very success. The fact that she rescued a country that they had dishonoured and impoverished, that she inherited a Britain that was sclerotic,indebted and declining and left it proud, wealthy and free. That she never lost an election to them. Their rage, in truth, can never be assuaged, for it is the rage of 'Caliban'. RIP Willo Edited by Willo (09 Apr 2013 5.39pm)
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Monty the Eagle  Lima 09 Apr 13 5.42pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 5.21pm
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Quote dannyh at 09 Apr 2013 4.42pm
The good of the country, is not always the same as what is good for the people of that Country. Latest example is the austerity measures, the individual will think they are crap I know I do, but it has to happen for the good of the countries economy as a whole. We simply could not have gone on as we were, oh and on the subject of money, you know that rebate we still get from Europe who was Champion for that cause? Ted heath? Tony Benn? Tony Blair even…..not effin likely. Another mug who has been fooled by the debt defecit narrative. For another thread perhaps, but the country is no worse off than it has been for many many years. Tis just a ruse by the Tories to cut public services.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 09 Apr 13 5.53pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 09 Apr 2013 4.53pm
Quote dannyh at 09 Apr 2013 4.42pm
The good of the country, is not always the same as what is good for the people of that Country. Latest example is the austerity measures, the individual will think they are crap I know I do, but it has to happen for the good of the countries economy as a whole. We simply could not have gone on as we were, oh and on the subject of money, you know that rebate we still get from Europe who was Champion for that cause? Ted heath? Tony Benn? Tony Blair even…..not effin likely. Another mug who has been fooled by the debt defecit narrative. For another thread perhaps, but the country is no worse off than it has been for many many years. Tis just a ruse by the Tories to cut public services.
Let me tell you Nick for a teacher you know fcuk all about History, the Americans bailed us out during the War, and after. And please don't refer to me as a mug just because I chose to believe in real life terms, rather than idealogical bullsh1t you swallow.
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Boooo  09 Apr 13 5.58pm |
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On the radio today I've had to listen to all and sundry being wheeled out to slate MT. From a terrorist, Gerry Adams to Derek Hatton, of all people, I would gladly swap them for her. Spiteful awful b******s.
I refuse to believe there are that many people out there that can't spell. Too f**king lazy, that's what I think. |
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 09 Apr 13 6.10pm |
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Quote Boooo at 09 Apr 2013 5.58pm
On the radio today I've had to listen to all and sundry being wheeled out to slate MT. From a terrorist, Gerry Adams to Derek Hatton, of all people, I would gladly swap them for her. Spiteful awful b******s. If you didnt know who she was but saw the list of 'anti's' getting their two penneth in over her corpse then you would have a natural instinct to be on her side purely because of the odious collection lining up George Galloway FFS....seriously
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 09 Apr 13 6.10pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 09 Apr 2013 5.24pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 09 Apr 2013 4.57pm
Quote Kermit8 at 09 Apr 2013 4.17pm
It's kinda telling I think that most of the individual posters on here and the bbs - about 70 per cent - I reckon, have her down as someone who did more harm than good. Now nearly all of us old enough posters would have been in the better off South East during 1979-90. Yet still so many have her down as a negative overall. Thus, It stands to reason that the Thatcher wasn't- good -for the -UK voices in the celtic countries, the Midlands, Yorkshire and the North East - places that really did feel the full force of her economic policies - must be frighteningly higher. We can't be all wrong, can we? Edited by Kermit8 (09 Apr 2013 4.20pm)
Powercuts, winter if discontent, British Leyland none of Maggies fault. She was a leader of her time, the world had changed but the Scargills, Red Robbos etc couldn't or wouldn't see it. She did and dragged us into the 20th century. She believed in people being responsible for their own destiny, unlike the current blame everyone owes me something culture that Liebour left us with.
I hope so
The reason I live in South London is because aged 20 I "got on my bike" as the good Mr Tebbit suggested. It never occurred to me not to, I wanted to work, I had made quite a few mistakes in my teens and moving down here to get on was logical. I could have stayed in Wales and gone on the dole - no thanks. Things were always going to change, they already had before Maggie was in power, as Jamie said either party may have got us out of the s*** eventually but I can't say I that believe that Michael Foot was the man to do it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Apr 13 6.12pm |
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Quote Moose at 09 Apr 2013 4.53pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 09 Apr 2013 4.47pm
Ouch. I remember the era well, its the era I grew up in, being born in 1971. I remember the Poll Tax, the Miners strike, the selling off of council homes, the steep rise in homelessness following care in the community, the 'crack down' on youth of acid house, Clause 28*, housing booms, recessions, The handover of Hong Kong, NHS waiting lists, mass privitisation, the falklands conflict, the massive unemployment that was a harrowing of the north, wales and scotland. I remember going to university in Sheffield in 1995 and it still having 25% unemployment and then there was Pinochet (and of course the stories of collusion that have since come out regarding loyalist terrorists, the hunger strikers, Liverpool council, Toxteth, Brixton, vCJD in Beef, educational reforms and the Yuppy boom (loads of money). They were interesting times. But in her defence, she got it right on AIDS and the Falklands, whilst the YTS was probably a good idea for the most part. Probably the greatest achievement was the response to AIDS. * I wouldn't call her a homophobe - she voted on the liberalisation of homosexuality.
Mad cow disease entered the food chain in the early 80*s, the scandal only blew up in the 90s. Hong Kong negotiations would have been during her reign, but I wasn't sure on the clamp down on Acid House! * Indeed the risks of contamination were highlighted as early as 1983 (Ironically the cause of BSE was the death of the tallow industry in the early 80*s, resulting in massive surplus of 'dead suspect meat' for processing, and thus the animal feed solution became a viable market). You couldn't sell a diseased dead animal for meat but you could for animal feed). * Following an explosion at a Tallow factory in 1978 Health and Safety improvements in the industry put many out of business. Edited by jamiemartin721 (09 Apr 2013 6.33pm)
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