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Matov 24 Oct 21 1.14pm
Originally posted by Badger11 What hasn't been discussed is the rise of the Wahhbi influence since the 1970's funded by the Saudi's and taught in Madrassas. In which the West has been fully complicit, ever since 1947. The Saudi Royal Family have effectively 'exported' Wabbism by way of diverting threats to its own standing. And in exchange for oil supplies, the Western powers agreed to not take serious steps to prevent it. That is the situation we are in. Saudi Petro-Dollars have effectively taken control of our major political institutions. Alternative fuel sources other than middle Eastern oil is the key to all of this. Fracking, nuclear, wave and wind, any and everything. A nations primary goal in the 21st century must be achieving energy independence. Instead we let the Saudis buy football clubs. And have a world cup in Quatar. Those little girls and parents who died in the Manchester arena bombing do so because our political classes are sucking at the Saudi tit. People need to wake to this. Just look at the response to September 11th. 17 out of 18 of the hijackers were Saudi's. So we bomb Afghanistan. We need a revolution. As simple as that. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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24 Oct 21 1.14pm

Originally posted by Badger11

What hasn't been discussed is the rise of the Wahhbi influence since the 1970's funded by the Saudi's and taught in Madrassas.

In which the West has been fully complicit, ever since 1947. The Saudi Royal Family have effectively 'exported' Wabbism by way of diverting threats to its own standing. And in exchange for oil supplies, the Western powers agreed to not take serious steps to prevent it. That is the situation we are in. Saudi Petro-Dollars have effectively taken control of our major political institutions.

Alternative fuel sources other than middle Eastern oil is the key to all of this. Fracking, nuclear, wave and wind, any and everything. A nations primary goal in the 21st century must be achieving energy independence.

Instead we let the Saudis buy football clubs. And have a world cup in Quatar.

Those little girls and parents who died in the Manchester arena bombing do so because our political classes are sucking at the Saudi tit. People need to wake to this.

Just look at the response to September 11th. 17 out of 18 of the hijackers were Saudi's. So we bomb Afghanistan.

We need a revolution. As simple as that.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 21 1.19pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The ones no longer at risk because arrests were made and those going forward whose stories are more likely to be believed and have their cases investigated. They can't stand that it was the nationalists who were jumping up and down about this decades before the Times scared the Police into actually doing their job. The people they support were screaming 'racist' at anybody raising the alarm while tens of thousands of girls were being raped all over the country....even murders happened. But that's just shrugged off as a lesson apparently.....A lesson that wasn't learnt. They actually think of themselves as good people. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.21pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 Oct 21 1.19pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The ones no longer at risk because arrests were made and those going forward whose stories are more likely to be believed and have their cases investigated.

They can't stand that it was the nationalists who were jumping up and down about this decades before the Times scared the Police into actually doing their job.

The people they support were screaming 'racist' at anybody raising the alarm while tens of thousands of girls were being raped all over the country....even murders happened.

But that's just shrugged off as a lesson apparently.....A lesson that wasn't learnt.

They actually think of themselves as good people.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.21pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.33pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan With all due respect im willing to believe the former leader of Libya over an old fool in his white enclave. 2010 - 44 million muslims in Europe 2030 - estimated to be 58 million Conversion to Islam is relatively small although its notable its mostly women who convert to islam in the uk. The numbers above are clear, a drift from islam is wishful thinking on your part & nothing more. I predict more Savile towns with IQ's comparable to that of your average afghan. I tend to believe facts. Facts are revealed by detailed research and not by hypothesises built on scaremongering. Here is some detailed research which indicates that, even in the "worst case" scenario, the prophesies of doom being made here are well wide of the mark:- [Link] These forecasts do not take into account my own expectation of a gradual drift away from strict adherence as more and more Muslims become westernised. As you can witness it already, I see no reason at all for this not to be proved accurate. We need to encourage that, and not seek to divide as so many here do, for to do so makes things worse, not better. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.33pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

With all due respect im willing to believe the former leader of Libya over an old fool in his white enclave.

2010 - 44 million muslims in Europe
2030 - estimated to be 58 million

Conversion to Islam is relatively small although its notable its mostly women who convert to islam in the uk.

The numbers above are clear, a drift from islam is wishful thinking on your part & nothing more.

I predict more Savile towns with IQ's comparable to that of your average afghan.

I tend to believe facts. Facts are revealed by detailed research and not by hypothesises built on scaremongering. Here is some detailed research which indicates that, even in the "worst case" scenario, the prophesies of doom being made here are well wide of the mark:-

[Link]

These forecasts do not take into account my own expectation of a gradual drift away from strict adherence as more and more Muslims become westernised. As you can witness it already, I see no reason at all for this not to be proved accurate. We need to encourage that, and not seek to divide as so many here do, for to do so makes things worse, not better.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 21 1.36pm
Originally posted by Matov We need a revolution. As simple as that. People are heavily invested in the status quo. Plenty of people won't agree with this or that but when you're talking about livelihoods, pensions and houses revolutions are fantasy. To have revolutions, you need two things....a split in the superrich elites, which would only happen with an ideological divide (which doesn't seem to exist in the UK) and where one set of elites feel very threatened. And you also have to have significant economic collapse, otherwise you won't have enough foot soldiers who have lost jobs, houses and livelihoods....as stated above. As much as I hate how society has developed I can't say that I wish these ills to fall on people....sure most of them are asleep, but they are mostly decent people, with their heads down, just trying to get by. So it isn't changing until it gets truly awful....and even then how it changes in completely up in the air as there are far more left and left of centre people than the likes of us. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.38pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 Oct 21 1.36pm

Originally posted by Matov

We need a revolution. As simple as that.

People are heavily invested in the status quo. Plenty of people won't agree with this or that but when you're talking about livelihoods, pensions and houses revolutions are fantasy.

To have revolutions, you need two things....a split in the superrich elites, which would only happen with an ideological divide (which doesn't seem to exist in the UK) and where one set of elites feel very threatened.

And you also have to have significant economic collapse, otherwise you won't have enough foot soldiers who have lost jobs, houses and livelihoods....as stated above.

As much as I hate how society has developed I can't say that I wish these ills to fall on people....sure most of them are asleep, but they are mostly decent people, with their heads down, just trying to get by.

So it isn't changing until it gets truly awful....and even then how it changes in completely up in the air as there are far more left and left of centre people than the likes of us.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.38pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.46pm
Originally posted by Far away fan Nothing wrong with Tommy Robinson reporting the truth, Islam can't live in peace with western world without trying to Change people's views and do what they want, where I live we see them coming in on boats give them water to drink turn them around. The words "Tommy Robinson" and "truth" do not belong in the same sentence. He could start by using his true name. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.46pm

Originally posted by Far away fan

Nothing wrong with Tommy Robinson reporting the truth, Islam can't live in peace with western world without trying to Change people's views and do what they want, where I live we see them coming in on boats give them water to drink turn them around.

The words "Tommy Robinson" and "truth" do not belong in the same sentence. He could start by using his true name.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.55pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You can put a truck load of coffee in front of them mate, they aren't going to smell it. Some put the fantasies in front of you because they actually believe the assimilation fantasy despite all the evidence....along with the idea that Muslim birth rates will fall (even if it did it's going to be higher and just take longer).. whereas others push them because they don't care and it's ideology based.....and besides it won't affect them personally. I'll leave you to ponder which one it is. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 11.10am) The evidence is there, but people like you refuse to see it. Full-scale assimilation doesn't happen until generations later. Other immigrant flows prove that, but the slow drip drip changes will. You only see what you want to see. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. High-profile terrorist atrocities and grooming gangs are not typical. Everyone knows there is more to be done, but everyone doing it is what is needed. Not one group making noise on the sidelines, led by an attention-seeking narcissist. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 1.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You can put a truck load of coffee in front of them mate, they aren't going to smell it.

Some put the fantasies in front of you because they actually believe the assimilation fantasy despite all the evidence....along with the idea that Muslim birth rates will fall (even if it did it's going to be higher and just take longer).. whereas others push them because they don't care and it's ideology based.....and besides it won't affect them personally.

I'll leave you to ponder which one it is.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 11.10am)

The evidence is there, but people like you refuse to see it.

Full-scale assimilation doesn't happen until generations later. Other immigrant flows prove that, but the slow drip drip changes will.

You only see what you want to see. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. High-profile terrorist atrocities and grooming gangs are not typical. Everyone knows there is more to be done, but everyone doing it is what is needed. Not one group making noise on the sidelines, led by an attention-seeking narcissist.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.03pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle The ones no longer at risk because arrests were made and those going forward whose stories are more likely to be believed and have their cases investigated. No arrest was ever made because of information provided to the police by Yaxley-Lennon. The reverse is true. Cases were disrupted by his activities. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.03pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The ones no longer at risk because arrests were made and those going forward whose stories are more likely to be believed and have their cases investigated.

No arrest was ever made because of information provided to the police by Yaxley-Lennon. The reverse is true. Cases were disrupted by his activities.

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Teddy Eagle 24 Oct 21 2.06pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle The words "Tommy Robinson" and "truth" do not belong in the same sentence. He could start by using his true name. Not a crime - Ramsay MacDonald, Anthony Eden, Neville Chamberlain, Harold MacMillan, Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan, Gordon Brown, Boris Johnson, Vince Cable, Kier Hardie, Enoch Powell, Paddy Ashdown and a few others have used different names.
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24 Oct 21 2.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The words "Tommy Robinson" and "truth" do not belong in the same sentence. He could start by using his true name.

Not a crime - Ramsay MacDonald, Anthony Eden, Neville Chamberlain, Harold MacMillan, Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan, Gordon Brown, Boris Johnson, Vince Cable, Kier Hardie, Enoch Powell, Paddy Ashdown and a few others have used different names.

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Teddy Eagle 24 Oct 21 2.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle No arrest was ever made because of information provided to the police by Yaxley-Lennon. The reverse is true. Cases were disrupted by his activities. Not information maybe but public awareness was raised and action followed. How many arrests were made before his actions compared to after?
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24 Oct 21 2.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No arrest was ever made because of information provided to the police by Yaxley-Lennon. The reverse is true. Cases were disrupted by his activities.

Not information maybe but public awareness was raised and action followed. How many arrests were made before his actions compared to after?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays People are heavily invested in the status quo. Plenty of people won't agree with this or that but when you're talking about livelihoods, pensions and houses revolutions are fantasy. To have revolutions, you need two things....a split in the superrich elites, which would only happen with an ideological divide (which doesn't seem to exist in the UK) and where one set of elites feel very threatened. And you also have to have significant economic collapse, otherwise you won't have enough foot soldiers who have lost jobs, houses and livelihoods....as stated above. As much as I hate how society has developed I can't say that I wish these ills to fall on people....sure most of them are asleep, but they are mostly decent people, with their heads down, just trying to get by. So it isn't changing until it gets truly awful....and even then how it changes in completely up in the air as there are far more left and left of centre people than the likes of us. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.38pm) You need to keep your fingers crossed! Brexit might help achieve the conditions that you and Matov crave. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

People are heavily invested in the status quo. Plenty of people won't agree with this or that but when you're talking about livelihoods, pensions and houses revolutions are fantasy.

And you also have to have significant economic collapse, otherwise you won't have enough foot soldiers who have lost jobs, houses and livelihoods....as stated above.

So it isn't changing until it gets truly awful....and even then how it changes in completely up in the air as there are far more left and left of centre people than the likes of us.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Oct 2021 1.38pm)

You need to keep your fingers crossed!

Brexit might help achieve the conditions that you and Matov crave.

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Stirlingsays 24 Oct 21 2.27pm
Guy can't even read a post properly. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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24 Oct 21 2.27pm

Guy can't even read a post properly.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.28pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Not information maybe but public awareness was raised and action followed. How many arrests were made before his actions compared to after? It was the newspapers who raised the awareness. The police and social services, were already aware and didn't want the additional attention and the consequent need to respond to it, as it diverted already inadequate resources. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 24 Oct 21 2.28pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not information maybe but public awareness was raised and action followed. How many arrests were made before his actions compared to after?

It was the newspapers who raised the awareness. The police and social services, were already aware and didn't want the additional attention and the consequent need to respond to it, as it diverted already inadequate resources.

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