The government and media have scared people half to death and given them the idea that a vaccine will solve this......the 'stay at home' message has been a disaster...The using of Police to intimate people using their gardens...totally mad.

The media, in particular, are very very responsible for doubling up the fear and celebrities were used to amplify the message.

I still can't believe that we had people being called idiots for being outside and sitting in the park!. I honestly think some of us have watched way too many movies....and I'm the prepper on here.....I'm the one who thinks you need a permanent month's supply!

This thread has been dominated by those supporting the idea of full lockdown, despite the resultant mess and widespread misery and death that is going to cause. I believe that time will show that these decisions achieved little and that government folded on herd immunity when the reality was it was the only show in town.

I back humanity to eventually create a vaccine for a coronavirus......but it has to be said, it has never been achieved before.

H1N1 which caused the 1918 Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions is still around and is regarded as seasonal flu. The Hong Kong flu of 69 (H3N2) which killed over a million worldwide is still around and is part of seasonal flu. There are no vaccines only treatments. They exist mainly, but not always, as their weaker strains because obviously lethal versions kill the host quicker and so gradually die out quicker....whereas the virus that doesn't kill the host and survives within the host and continues on without successfully attacking the host. Many people don't realise that most of us have been walking around with viruses inside us most of our lives and our immune system is constantly evolving.

People who think that they can sit inside until there is a vaccine need to realise how unlikely that is anytime soon and that only herd immunity reduces their risks of catching flu or viruses.....that and time ending with only weaker versions remaining and with a very infectious strain like this.....I'd imagine that would take a longer time than usual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 May 2020 2.24pm)

If those hibernating forever eventually die from Covid then will that mean all union heads will die?

We've been asked to stay inside for 7 weeks. 7 weeks. It's hardly Anne Frank.

We know there's a recession coming, along with pretty much every country in the world. It will be painful, but we will recover as long as measures are put in place to stimulate demand quickly once we are out the other side of this. I've been quietly impressed with how Rishi has been going about things and hasn't been afraid to take bold moves so far - he will need to hold his nerve.

The government are trying to get people back to work when we are nowhere near over the worse of this and will prolong both the actual pain (and you know, actual deaths) and the economic pain.

If we had taken quick and decisive action right back at the beginning of this to control and limit the spread such as your South Korea's and New Zealand's we would not be in the position we are now where we are very realistically sending people out to to work to contract the virus and die because we need to get the economy going again.

It's been a clusterf*ck right from the start and continues to be.

There’s no chance of an immediate recovery. There so many reasons why not. The usual recession reasons plus restrictions on activity and the mental state of the people. The only recovery will be in crime, and in a big way. Keep your wits about you.

The more I think of it the more I think the people need to be told that now is the time for this war time attitude while they’re shown the consequences of not facing up to the situation, waiting for some safety measures that may never arrive.