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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 12 Jun 17 3.29pm
Corbyn and Labour back to the left and right hand etc [Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game
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In The Crowd 12 Jun 17 3.29pm

Corbyn and Labour back to the left and right hand etc

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 3.29pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez No of course I don't understand that, I'm deluded remember. It's the level and length of Austerity that is damaging, this is "basic economics". I'd argue you've got your head buried in the sand if you can't see the chronic underfunding of our public services. Do you not see the damage that the crisis of our Schools and NHS will have on the economy? Besides the fact that it's a bit mean as well. What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do.
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Originally posted by Mstrobez

No of course I don't understand that, I'm deluded remember. It's the level and length of Austerity that is damaging, this is "basic economics". I'd argue you've got your head buried in the sand if you can't see the chronic underfunding of our public services. Do you not see the damage that the crisis of our Schools and NHS will have on the economy? Besides the fact that it's a bit mean as well.

What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jun 17 3.38pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do. Is that a reference to the political landscape? I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more.
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Shizzlehurst 12 Jun 17 3.38pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do.

Is that a reference to the political landscape?

I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more.

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Mstrobez 12 Jun 17 3.39pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do. It's a good job they were proposing to fund it through tax increases then wasn't it. If not they'd only be adding to the current Tory policy of borrowing more than all labour governments put together. Quite an achievement in fairness when you include the Blair era in that. We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

12 Jun 17 3.39pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's a good job they were proposing to fund it through tax increases then wasn't it. If not they'd only be adding to the current Tory policy of borrowing more than all labour governments put together. Quite an achievement in fairness when you include the Blair era in that.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 17 3.40pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Is that a reference to the political landscape? I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more. A perfectly placed pass which you've tapped home beautifully. Well done. Perhaps you're not such a claude after all. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 17 3.40pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is that a reference to the political landscape?

I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more.

A perfectly placed pass which you've tapped home beautifully. Well done.

Perhaps you're not such a claude after all.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Mapletree Croydon 12 Jun 17 3.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What I see is trying to fund these services at a level that is sustainable. Throwing borrowed monet at things didn't work under Labour last time and it won't in the future. The NHS in particular needs to be more accountable for what it spends and needs to be realistic about what it can do. Right, so borrowing money to invest is a wrong thing to do. Better tell the whole of the private sector that then. It is appropriate to fund the NHS to the level where it can achieve its SLAs. Otherwise it's simply bad management. For information, here is a list (in order) of countries that spend more per capita than the UK: USA (136% more) Luxembourg Switzerland Norway Netherlands Germany Sweden Ireland (28% more) Austria Denmark Belgium Canada Australia France Japan Iceland
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Mapletree

Croydon 12 Jun 17 3.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Right, so borrowing money to invest is a wrong thing to do. Better tell the whole of the private sector that then.

It is appropriate to fund the NHS to the level where it can achieve its SLAs. Otherwise it's simply bad management.

For information, here is a list (in order) of countries that spend more per capita than the UK:

USA (136% more)
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Norway
Netherlands
Germany
Sweden
Ireland (28% more)
Austria
Denmark
Belgium
Canada
Australia
France
Japan
Iceland

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steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jun 17 4.07pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I don't think many people in the electorate make informed choices. It's just that voting for Corbyn on the basis that he is 'a nice man' or 'in touch with the people' or creating 'a new brand of politics' is so staggeringly misguided and naive. Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO. In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion.
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Croydon 12 Jun 17 4.07pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't think many people in the electorate make informed choices. It's just that voting for Corbyn on the basis that he is 'a nice man' or 'in touch with the people' or creating 'a new brand of politics' is so staggeringly misguided and naive.

Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO.

In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion.

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.09pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO. In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion. There's the flaw.
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Hrolf The Ganger

12 Jun 17 4.09pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Corbyn has experience and judgement simply the best man for the job IMO.

In a minority or very close situation he would be ideal as as man who can sit down with people of a different persuasion.

There's the flaw.

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.12pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Is that a reference to the political landscape? I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more. Is that the impression I created?
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Hrolf The Ganger

12 Jun 17 4.12pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is that a reference to the political landscape?

I think you can do better, put yer art into it a bit more.

Is that the impression I created?

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jun 17 4.21pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez It's a good job they were proposing to fund it through tax increases then wasn't it. If not they'd only be adding to the current Tory policy of borrowing more than all labour governments put together. Quite an achievement in fairness when you include the Blair era in that. So you complain about borrowing on the one hand and cuts on the other? A bit of a confusing attitude.
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Hrolf The Ganger

12 Jun 17 4.21pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

So you complain about borrowing on the one hand and cuts on the other? A bit of a confusing attitude.

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komakino over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.00pm
Originally posted by nickgusset [Link] Labour membership up by 150,000 since the election. Now hitting 800,000 mark. Waddaloadas*** that Corbyn is, he should be keeping membership down to 150,000 like the Tories. If only 1% knock on doors, that's still a lot of activists and campaigners. Probably helped to scupper May. I was laughed at when I said rank and file campaigners will make a difference. More lies by the limp wristed lefties [Link] "FOR F*CKS SAKE MURRAY!!" 360 gamertag - Komakino1
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over the hills and far away... 12 Jun 17 5.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Labour membership up by 150,000 since the election. Now hitting 800,000 mark.

Waddaloadas*** that Corbyn is, he should be keeping membership down to 150,000 like the Tories.

If only 1% knock on doors, that's still a lot of activists and campaigners. Probably helped to scupper May.

I was laughed at when I said rank and file campaigners will make a difference.

More lies by the limp wristed lefties

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"FOR F*CKS SAKE MURRAY!!"

360 gamertag - Komakino1

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Kermit8 Hevon 12 Jun 17 5.02pm
Originally posted by komakino More lies by the limp wristed lefties [Link] 15,000 not 150,000. Obviously a typo/Chinese whisper. Move along now. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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