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 crystal balls  The Garden of Earthly Delights 12 Jul 16 1.02pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
All depends how long term "long term" is...if you rely on Remainers Longe term is 2 weeks allowing them to panic and throw incredible flounces. The Captain of HMS Economy has been given the order to change course and has just started to turn the wheel...we're heading away from the rocks and in the distance is the sun...there's some choppy waters to get through in the meantime. I would suggest that, in this context, short term is 5 years and long term 10. It will take 5 years or so before the negative aspects of exit will manifest themselves fully, and only after 10 years will we be able to tell if any positives have occurred. I don't think remainers are panicking, just pointing out what was predicted before is actually happening now. Many commentators are now suggesting further falls against the dollar to around 1.20. We shall see!
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 Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 1.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
So if there's no plan, you just voted for a concept? You have the absolute right to do so, don't get me wrong - I just can't get my head around committing to such a fundamental change without having anything other than soundbites to convince me. Any and all elections are about a concept. Anyone who thinks otherwise is totally naive. Any new administration does not know what it will do specifically until it sees the books and in this instance, no one has formed any more than basic plan because the PM has resigned and the new cabinet has yet to be announced. The decision to leave was about broad principals and projections. I know that this country cannot sustain the current levels of immigration and I know that Europe will push toward federalism. For all that could mean for Britain, I voted leave and unlike some I did not delude myself that spurious facts, figures and projections by both sides actually meant anything. They were all spin and unreliable prediction.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 12 Jul 16 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by crystal balls
I would suggest that, in this context, short term is 5 years and long term 10. It will take 5 years or so before the negative aspects of exit will manifest themselves fully, and only after 10 years will we be able to tell if any positives have occurred. I don't think remainers are panicking, just pointing out what was predicted before is actually happening now. Many commentators are now suggesting further falls against the dollar to around 1.20. We shall see! I'd agree with you re: the timescale...basic economics aint it! Seemingly a lot dont though as I'm seeing Reaminers pressing the panic button; flailing arms; getting ready for the 4th apocalypse all over the place....perhaps you might have a word (?)...
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jul 16 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a stupid post. If there was a "plan", I certainly would not know it's specifics since I am not in the cabinet. Oh and incidentally, the new cabinet hasn't even been named yet. Enjoy this brief period of time when you can throw rotten tomatoes Gusset because this is the best it's ever going to get for your has been, disintegrating party. I'll put it another way...
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'll put it another way... Erm, to leave Europe. Hello!
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 12 Jul 16 1.33pm |
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The remain camp, this is you.
"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'" |
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Attachment: | DanH SW2 12 Jul 16 1.52pm |
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Originally posted by dannyh
The remain camp, this is you.
If people just sat back and accepted election results there would be no point having opposition parties for most of the incumbent party's term (not much unlike now tbf).
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 12 Jul 16 1.56pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
If people just sat back and accepted election results there would be no point having opposition parties for most of the incumbent party's term (not much unlike now tbf). Exactly; and as just about all of the exit leaders have knobbed off, they wont be around to defend their position if it all goes tits up.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Jul 16 2.18pm |
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EU trade deals are win win for them the UK will pay more than it does at present as the 3rd largest contributor and have no say in how it is managed. No matter how the PM hams it up special deals etc. nonsense. Would you like a trade agreement with a country that walks away from its treaties and is an almighty pest? I wonder why they are acting so reasonable guess its in recognition of the financial damage
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jul 16 3.11pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Erm, to leave Europe. Hello! That's the simple version. What do you want from leaving Europe? What do you expect and what do you feel you have been promised?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 Jul 16 3.16pm |
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Benefit tourists... 600000 according to the sun in the referendum build up.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Jul 16 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
That's the simple version. What do you want from leaving Europe? What do you expect and what do you feel you have been promised? Why are you asking questions that you already know the answers to?
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