And for what purpose? Only to be destroyed again? No. The US has sent a huge message to Germany. It will do what it tells it to do. Perhaps wheels within wheels?

Germany had its bollocks cut out in 1945 and was perhaps starting to show signs of growing a pair again but the US has curtailed that new attempt at it regaining a spine.

With the US not even making much effort to pretend it was not involved. Barley even trying. And this is not even NATO. It is pure Washington Geo-Politics no doubt with Westminster playing along (and possibly even a RN operation to scupper this pipe-line).

This war might splutter on for a few more months but it's over. Why would the US need to fund it anymore? The Donbass? LOL.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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US still needs to guarantee Ukraine can pay back what it owes them.
US will ship LNG to Germany, these ships are legit Russian targets now.

I see it a little different our best hope of an off ramp lies ruined at the bottom of the ocean.

Russia has called for a meeting with the UN security council over the NS1 & 2

The mountains are calling & I must go.

In an interesting geo-political development, Finland refuses to extradite 6 wanted persons to Turkey, the chief specialist in the Finnish Ministry of Justice said: 'I informed Turkey that the files could not be re-evaluated, as decisions taken by the Ministry of Justice based on extradition laws cannot be appealed'.

Back in August Turkey submitted a list of people it wanted extradited as a condition for lifting its veto over Sweden and Finland's bid to join NATO.

In response, Turkish President Erdogan says he will stick to his position on the issue of Sweden and Finland joining NATO until promises made to Ankara are fulfilled.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Oct 2022 2.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

how about now please? hahaha

No one will know the result of this war until Russia put their mobilisation out into the battle....of which they probably have several. I guess we will all find out....hopefully we will anyway.

What gets me is that anyone thinks that any of this is a 'win' for any of us. I get people having 'sides' but the idea that anyone actually comes out of this ok is a nonsense.

No one wins in this war regardless of either Russia or Ukraine/Nato coming out on top......This war started a cold war and that ends badly for everyone. Most people just don't get it.

I certainly don't think kicking Russia out of the Ukraine ends with anything other than mass death. According to their constitution they have the right to go nuclear once those regions are accepted by their parliament.

This sh1tshow had a chance of being ended in March/April and I think history will look back very badly on that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Oct 2022 10.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I'll highlight this because, while it's obvious to me and many, there are still those that like to paint this war as 'goodies v baddies' when the reality is that war means death for many many people who rarely deserve it. That's independent of which side does the killing.

Here is a typical example printed in our media, where the mask slips and they are prepared to print a reality instead of just focusing upon deaths inflicted by Russians. But they use the double standard of portraying this as justice rather than what it is.....killing people who didn't support Ukraine....and those areas have always had pro Russians living in them.

Both sides have been ethnically cleansing since 2014.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)