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samprior Flag Hamburg 13 May 20 7.38am Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Maybe sauerkraut is that 'disinfectant' that Trump was on about

The Koreans also eat Kimchi which is made through a similar process to Sauerkraut and their figures have been ok also.

Who'd have thought it eh. We've found the cure. Order your jars now.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 13 May 20 9.52am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

The rules about what we are allowed to do and not do have just been changed so for those that are unclear about it I am attaching a summary which I have lifted from UK Business Forums:-


4-year-olds can go to school but university students who have paid for their tuition and the accommodation that they aren’t living in, can’t go back to university.

If I’m a teacher I can go to school with up to fifteen 4-year-olds that I’m not related to but can’t see one 4 year old that I am related to that doesn’t attend my school.

I can sit in a park on Wednesday.

I can get a visit from an estate agent and I can let people into my house, but only if they say that they might want to buy it - but I must not let my mother into the house.

I can meet one person from another household for a chat or to sunbathe but not two people so if I know two people from another household I have to pick my favourite. I can’t go closer than 2m to the one I choose unless the other one sat next to them is not there to meet me.

Employers must adhere to place-of-employment guidelines and face severe penalties if they do not comply with those guidelines starting today, although the guidelines have not been published yet.

I can work all day with my colleagues but I must not sit in their garden for a chat after work.

I can now do unlimited exercise and the nature of that exercise is entirely up to me.

I can drive to any destination but which ones I am allowed to drive to are to be determined at a future date.

Although the buses are still running past my house, I am not supposed to use them.

It will soon be time to quarantine people coming into the country by air unless they are coming from France or Ireland because the coronavirus does not cross the English Channel or the Irish Sea, unless they are going to Scotland or Wales, in which case they can cross the English Channel or the Irish Sea, so they must not.

Our youngest children go back to school first because they are good at not touching things they shouldn’t, maintain personal space at all times and never randomly lick you.

We now have a one-to-five alarm scale and we are somewhere in between 3.5 and 4.5. 5 is all of the virus and 1 is none of the virus but 2,3 and 4 are to be announced at a later date and will be some of the virus, A bit of the virus. Just enough virus to see off those over 70s who were told to self-isolate but now we’ve realised that they’ve done that a bit too well despite offloading coronavirus patients into care homes and now we are claiming that was never said in the first place, even though it’s in writing in the stay-at-home guidance.

The slogan isn’t to stay at home anymore. So we don’t have to say at home. Except we do. Unless we can’t. In which case we should go out. But there will be fines if we break the rules on staying in and going out. So don’t do that.

Don’t forget... Stay alert... which Robert Jenrick has explained actually means Stay home as much as possible. Obviously. Your mother is not allowed into your house unless she is an estate agent from France, in which case she can come and go as much as she likes.

Control the virus. Well, I can’t even control my dogs sometimes and I can actually see them. Plus I know a lot about dogs and very little about controlling viruses.

Save lives. The government has told us that saving lives is preferable to not saving lives.

If you live in England but work in Scotland or Wales, when at the border, you must comply with a completely different set of rules.

So there you are. All clear?

Edited by Midlands Eagle (13 May 2020 9.54am)

 

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becky Flag over the moon 13 May 20 10.05am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

One guy here in Somerset said how odd it was that his mother, who lives in Wales, can drive over the bridge and come and sit in his garden, but must not go into the house.


I just hope he's got an outside lavvy- it's a long drive home for the poor woman

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 May 20 10.34am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The rules about what we are allowed to do and not do have just been changed so for those that are unclear about it I am attaching a summary which I have lifted from UK Business Forums:-


4-year-olds can go to school but university students who have paid for their tuition and the accommodation that they aren’t living in, can’t go back to university.

If I’m a teacher I can go to school with up to fifteen 4-year-olds that I’m not related to but can’t see one 4 year old that I am related to that doesn’t attend my school.

I can sit in a park on Wednesday.

I can get a visit from an estate agent and I can let people into my house, but only if they say that they might want to buy it - but I must not let my mother into the house.

I can meet one person from another household for a chat or to sunbathe but not two people so if I know two people from another household I have to pick my favourite. I can’t go closer than 2m to the one I choose unless the other one sat next to them is not there to meet me.

Employers must adhere to place-of-employment guidelines and face severe penalties if they do not comply with those guidelines starting today, although the guidelines have not been published yet.

I can work all day with my colleagues but I must not sit in their garden for a chat after work.

I can now do unlimited exercise and the nature of that exercise is entirely up to me.

I can drive to any destination but which ones I am allowed to drive to are to be determined at a future date.

Although the buses are still running past my house, I am not supposed to use them.

It will soon be time to quarantine people coming into the country by air unless they are coming from France or Ireland because the coronavirus does not cross the English Channel or the Irish Sea, unless they are going to Scotland or Wales, in which case they can cross the English Channel or the Irish Sea, so they must not.

Our youngest children go back to school first because they are good at not touching things they shouldn’t, maintain personal space at all times and never randomly lick you.

We now have a one-to-five alarm scale and we are somewhere in between 3.5 and 4.5. 5 is all of the virus and 1 is none of the virus but 2,3 and 4 are to be announced at a later date and will be some of the virus, A bit of the virus. Just enough virus to see off those over 70s who were told to self-isolate but now we’ve realised that they’ve done that a bit too well despite offloading coronavirus patients into care homes and now we are claiming that was never said in the first place, even though it’s in writing in the stay-at-home guidance.

The slogan isn’t to stay at home anymore. So we don’t have to say at home. Except we do. Unless we can’t. In which case we should go out. But there will be fines if we break the rules on staying in and going out. So don’t do that.

Don’t forget... Stay alert... which Robert Jenrick has explained actually means Stay home as much as possible. Obviously. Your mother is not allowed into your house unless she is an estate agent from France, in which case she can come and go as much as she likes.

Control the virus. Well, I can’t even control my dogs sometimes and I can actually see them. Plus I know a lot about dogs and very little about controlling viruses.

Save lives. The government has told us that saving lives is preferable to not saving lives.

If you live in England but work in Scotland or Wales, when at the border, you must comply with a completely different set of rules.

So there you are. All clear?

Edited by Midlands Eagle (13 May 2020 9.54am)

Witty but disingenuous ME.
Does everyone moaning want a handbook with dos and don'ts as that's how it seems. Then everyone can sue when the wording is such that (in a wingey voice) " well that's not what it says in my handbook,so now I'm claiming off you cos you made me poorly). Common sense seems to be in short supply atm. Why shouldn't employers take some responsibility and care homes can f*** off with there 2k a patient. I'm as pissed off with the situation as the next person but ffs get a grip. Just do what you want to do if that's where it's going and screw the fact that you might get or pass on this bug to your family, friends or a stranger who didnt want it. I'm sick sorry and tired of all the wind bags wanting everything on a plate. Life isnt planned out, it has good and bad and this is a bit of the bad.
Basically think of the stupidest person you know and there are plenty out there double that stupid.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 May 20 10.41am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Witty but disingenuous ME.
Does everyone moaning want a handbook with dos and don'ts as that's how it seems. Then everyone can sue when the wording is such that (in a wingey voice) " well that's not what it says in my handbook,so now I'm claiming off you cos you made me poorly). Common sense seems to be in short supply atm. Why shouldn't employers take some responsibility and care homes can f*** off with there 2k a patient. I'm as pissed off with the situation as the next person but ffs get a grip. Just do what you want to do if that's where it's going and screw the fact that you might get or pass on this bug to your family, friends or a stranger who didnt want it. I'm sick sorry and tired of all the wind bags wanting everything on a plate. Life isnt planned out, it has good and bad and this is a bit of the bad.
Basically think of the stupidest person you know and there are plenty out there double that stupid.

Agreed or as another poster put it we are moving from a simple stay at home message to something else so of course it will be more nuanced. Meanwhile some bosses are reporting that their staff have Furlough fever I hope this is not true if those companies goes bust those malingerers will be the first to complain.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 20 10.58am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by becky

One guy here in Somerset said how odd it was that his mother, who lives in Wales, can drive over the bridge and come and sit in his garden, but must not go into the house.


I just hope he's got an outside lavvy- it's a long drive home for the poor woman

It’s going into the house that is the problem. Once you’re in the risks and lapse of concentration of the advice goes. I’ve been to visit a shielding family in the garden. As a man I can piss in the garden. A female can’t in their small garden with neighbours overlooking. Therefore don’t have a drink and then go to the toilet if you don’t want to risk your relatives.

They have a choice. There’s no 1984 telescreens. Put your own at risk or not. Individual responsibility. Or not.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (13 May 2020 11.06am)

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 20 11.04am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed or as another poster put it we are moving from a simple stay at home message to something else so of course it will be more nuanced. Meanwhile some bosses are reporting that their staff have Furlough fever I hope this is not true if those companies goes bust those malingerers will be the first to complain.

Midlands probably pasted that from somewhere. As funny as some of it might be, half of that you can easily provide reasons for why you can do one thing and not the other. The 3 obvious reasons will be:

It’s about minimising risk. One of them might be more of a requirement personally or economically.

If people see or know you’re doing the 2nd then everyone will be doing it.

There’s an economic balance going on for yourself and everyone else’s benefit. Some things might be allowed (advised) because they can’t enforce some of these. Or would you prefer nothing is allowed and your life in the future becomes worse?

What happened to comparisons with the war? The response to this is nothing like the war generation. Truly pathetic tbh with you. If you or your household are shielding then fine. If not, get a grip.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 20 11.09am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

However, with his video, I thought Matt Lucas had his one funny moment in nearly 20 years. I think the 2 lefties on Ch4 Friday night’s ‘The Last Leg’ sofa are quite funny too. But that’s satire, not activism. The Aussie host is slightly annoying.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 13 May 20 11.15am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Witty but disingenuous ME.

It wasn't supposed to be serious he said talking to the man who earlier today asked someone else if their "laughter muscle went south"

 

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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 13 May 20 11.22am Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Certainly a tricky one to manage. My feelings are that it's important to get the economy up and running asap now. It would appear that the NHS are on top of it, and there is capacity to cope should there be another spike.

We've had time to assess the virus and evidence suggests that those under 45 with no underlying health conditions are very unlikely to suffer with major symptoms. They can of course still contract and spread the virus, probably without being aware.

Those healthy below the age of 45, I would guess make up a most of the less senior clerical, admin, retail, entertainment, hospitality, construction, catering jobs. If they could return it would get economy moving again. It would also spread the virus amongst this group fairly quickly which would help towards herd immunity.

If you're not in this group, you are aware of the risks and should be encouraged to self isolate/social distance for a longer period. I know it's unfair, but to me it now seems a little pointless for those who are not in the 'at risk' category to continue the way they are when they could be out getting the economy back on track.

If the government could clearly identify a low risk category, it would be great for those to return to some sort of normality.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 13 May 20 12.43pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Goal Machine

If the government could clearly identify a low risk category, it would be great for those to return to some sort of normality.

Skinny young white females seem to be the least at risk

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 May 20 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Skinny young white females seem to be the least at risk

*excluding at risk from Tom the Eagle.

 


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