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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 19 10.17am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
All whites appear to be rich then.
Given the audience he was addressing we all know what he meant and that this was an unfortunate slip of the tongue. What is truly sad is how the Trump campaign, and the right wing media, jump on such peripheral nonsense, as a way of continuing the character assignation of a possible opposition candidate. The sooner the Dems settle on their choice and a real comparison based on policy and fitness for office begins the better, because by any measure Trump is the most gaff prone POTUS in my lifetime. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2019 10.17am)
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cryrst  The garden of England 09 Aug 19 11.04am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Given the audience he was addressing we all know what he meant and that this was an unfortunate slip of the tongue. What is truly sad is how the Trump campaign, and the right wing media, jump on such peripheral nonsense, as a way of continuing the character assignation of a possible opposition candidate. The sooner the Dems settle on their choice and a real comparison based on policy and fitness for office begins the better, because by any measure Trump is the most gaff prone POTUS in my lifetime. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Aug 2019 10.17am) A slip of the tongue.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 19 11.51am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
A slip of the tongue. Trump "taken literally"? He is taken to task and then he is ridiculed! No reasonable observer takes this man literally. They know he is a serial liar who only says what suits his case at the time. Everyone has "those moments". The real question is the meaning that lies behind them.
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Teddy Eagle  09 Aug 19 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Trump "taken literally"? He is taken to task and then he is ridiculed! No reasonable observer takes this man literally. They know he is a serial liar who only says what suits his case at the time. Everyone has "those moments". The real question is the meaning that lies behind them. According to oddschecker the best price on Trump winning again is even money. Biden is 7/1. Lots of unreasonable observers seem OK with what he says and how he says it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 19 12.43pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
According to oddschecker the best price on Trump winning again is even money. Biden is 7/1. Lots of unreasonable observers seem OK with what he says and how he says it. That only goes to show what a truly strange mindset exists in a large subset of US voters, some of who have never been out of their State, let alone know where Europe actually is. Some think that if you favour raising a cent in tax you must be a raving communist.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Aug 19 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That only goes to show what a truly strange mindset exists in a large subset of US voters, some of who have never been out of their State, let alone know where Europe actually is. Some think that if you favour raising a cent in tax you must be a raving communist. And yet they’re the people who get to vote. Democracy at work. Americans are often unfairly maligned for their lack of knowledge of the outside world. They live in a country with enough home news to keep them occupied and it’s not as though we’re much better; ask the average person here to name the political parties in Croatia or the currency of Portugal and they wouldn’t have a clue.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 19 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And yet they’re the people who get to vote. Democracy at work. Americans are often unfairly maligned for their lack of knowledge of the outside world. They live in a country with enough home news to keep them occupied and it’s not as though we’re much better; ask the average person here to name the political parties in Croatia or the currency of Portugal and they wouldn’t have a clue. Of course they get to vote and so they should but it explains why such a desperately inappropriate choice as Trump can be shoehorned into the WH by those with malign intentions. The manipulation of the impressionable via social media is now a very serious concern. We need to be very wary of this ourselves in the coming months.
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| Teddy Eagle 09 Aug 19 1.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course they get to vote and so they should but it explains why such a desperately inappropriate choice as Trump can be shoehorned into the WH by those with malign intentions. The manipulation of the impressionable via social media is now a very serious concern. We need to be very wary of this ourselves in the coming months. That genie is out of the bottle. Social media and identity politics will prevail for the foreseeable future.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 09 Aug 19 2.02pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Of course they get to vote and so they should but it explains why such a desperately inappropriate choice as Trump can be shoehorned into the WH by those with malign intentions. The manipulation of the impressionable via social media is now a very serious concern. We need to be very wary of this ourselves in the coming months. Of course. Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Narcissism.
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| Invalid user 2019 09 Aug 19 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That only goes to show what a truly strange mindset exists in a large subset of US voters, some of who have never been out of their State, let alone know where Europe actually is. Some think that if you favour raising a cent in tax you must be a raving communist. It's because Trump is almost certain to to the GOP candidate while Biden is one of maybe 5 possibles for the Dem choice, so by nature of that his odds have to be much larger than Trumps. I'd say that there are enough factors at play to give Trump a good chance of winning in 2020, and that the shape the economy is in a years time may be the determining factor. Edited by dollardays (09 Aug 2019 2.49pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Aug 19 3.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Of course. Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid. Narcissism. That's untrue. There are many who hold opposing views but aren't stupid. There are though enough people who believe the conspiracy theories that now dominate social media to make the difference. By no means are all of these on the right. The problem is not the underlying views of the voters but the intentions of those seeking to manipulate those views. Creating division in the USA has clearly worked and that division has been widened via social media activity, much it coming from malign sources. Who benefits from divisions in the western democracies? Who seeks more power and influence in world affairs? Who can profit from this? Why would any politician turn a blind eye to it?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Aug 19 3.32pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That's untrue. There are many who hold opposing views but aren't stupid. There are though enough people who believe the conspiracy theories that now dominate social media to make the difference. By no means are all of these on the right. The problem is not the underlying views of the voters but the intentions of those seeking to manipulate those views. Creating division in the USA has clearly worked and that division has been widened via social media activity, much it coming from malign sources. Who benefits from divisions in the western democracies? Who seeks more power and influence in world affairs? Who can profit from this? Why would any politician turn a blind eye to it? The division has been widened by circumstances.
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