My thinking is that we would probably only go for him if Ipswich get promoted, but if they do get promoted then I don’t think he would leave as he would have a massive point to prove and would also be rewarded well by Ipswich.

You are right about one thing, I do have a low opinion, but it’s mostly of a certain number of posters here. I find that many views are as old fashioned and intransigent as our manager, but hey we all have our own opinions.

You may be surprised to hear that I do not subscribe to the view that our ability to attract both players or managers to the club is down to its image, but I would also point out that it is an argument that is consistently peddled by posters here to explain why we went with Roy again and is why no one else would take the job.

For me it’s quite straightforward, I don’t want Roy at Palace because to me he is predictable and negative and I have always thought that, in fact, long before he came to Palace.

You obviously have no idea how much experience as you describe it I have but I’m not here to argue with you, I’m giving my opinion on what I see on the pitch and what people post on here. I guess you thought our tactical performance this evening was spot on.

Roy will be here until the summer, until Southgate leaves his England role having failed again at a big tournament with negative tactics. He will take over from Roy and then you really will have something to moan about. Negative footballl, VAR slowing killing the enjoyment (see rugby / TMO), and a new TV deal with Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday evening slots, only 2 or 3 games a week at 3.00pm on Saturday. It almost makes you wish for Championship football.

In my view Roy is not the best option to develop our young players.
It's not that he insists on awareness of team shape and defensive responsibility.
That's a prerequisite these days and, as good as his players are, even Pep won't select players if they don't demonstrate defensive awareness and team responsibilities.
However, from what I observe Roy's obsession with team shape and structure throws our game out of kilter so players don't get the opportunity to demonstrate what they are good at and what they have been selected for in the first place.
Ahamada may or may not be good enough.
But he's a box to box midfield player, not a shuttle up and down right winger.
Franca is not a winger.

Showing my age, in the old days and before subs,if a player was
injured he was sent out to play on the wing so you could still keep 11 on the field but keep the player out of harm's way so his injury wouldn't cost you.
Roy seems to treat these youngsters as those injured players stuck out on the wing (i.e not fully trusted).
Roy doesn't seem to trust these young players and this could inhibit their development.
Yes, I know Roy's had 50 years more experience than me and many of you have absolute faith in his judgement.

Did you really need to ponder that, Willo? Isn't the answer obvious?

The only reason to keep him until the summer is the promise that we will not get a Forest reject to replace him in January and will get a proper manager (Paulo Fonseca out of contract and not signing a new one, cough) but it's so unfair on the fans to subject us all to months more of the dross we watched last night, it's just killing any optimism in the club. Even Parish looked bored last night when they showed him on TV so you'd hope he knows what we've watched this season and especially recently is unacceptable

Everton last night weren't amazing but they did create a lot more than us and actually looked like they knew what they were doing on the ball. Has anyone got a clue what our plan in possession is? It's like Bad Vieiraball