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HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Jun 23 9.10am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn't. As I have already explained. I know they are immigrants. You specified African and Asian not immigrants. So you know all of them personally then
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
You specified African and Asian not immigrants. So you know all of them personally then No, but my wife works at the hospital and sees enough of her new colleagues to know their nationalities. She also has friends in the recruitment offices, with whom I also have contact, who tell her where they are directing the current recruitment drives. These are organised in conjunction with other Trusts. I don't look at somebody walking down the street and make assumptions about them. I am referring to a general situation in our locality, which is a fact.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 3.57pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
What you posted said: "You aren't actually concerned about immigration at all. Your concern is the colour of the immigrant's skin. There's not a lot more that needs to be said about that. What it defines you as is obvious." The interpretation is obvious - you are calling him a racist. What interpretation would you like us to make? When you say "What it defines you as is obvious", what is obvious - state it clearly. Edited by georgenorman (07 Jun 2023 9.59am) I very deliberately was obtuse and left it up to the reader to make their own assumptions. Which you very neatly have done. As Francis Urquhart said in a House of Cards "You might very well say that, but I couldn't possibly comment". Edited by Wisbech Eagle (07 Jun 2023 10.59pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 4.01pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
To be accurate that is not a lie, it might be an aspiration or a desire but it's not a lie, so I think you owe an apology for labelling someone as a liar who is not. When something is as impossible as going back in time and reversing something then to suggest it, which is what our friend effectively does, is indeed a lie. You can aspire to change things in the future but not in the past.
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georgenorman 07 Jun 23 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I very deliberately was obtuse and left it up to the reader to make their own assumptions. Which you very neatly have done. As Francis Urquhart said in a House of Cards "You might very well say the, but I couldn't possibly comment". Well, I guess we can all have some fun interpreting what part of a person's anatomy that makes you. Edited by georgenorman (07 Jun 2023 5.05pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 07 Jun 23 5.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What I was responding to was this that you posted:- "I was in Dorset this weekend at a well known beauty spot, and you would think it was somewhere between Asia and Eastern Europe." Somewhere between Asia and Eastern Europe would indicate that not all are from Eastern Europe! From the middle east perhaps? Maybe some from Eastern Europe and some from Asia? So dismount your high horse and read what I said in the context of what you actually wrote. Not what you wished you have written. As usual, You prefer word games and smartarsery than facing reality. You are a cliché Wisbech. You come out with the same old accusations, excuses and diversions that liberal lefty idealists have been using for years. Meanwhile, the immigrant population grows, the White British population shrinks, violent and organised crime increases, race issues are daily news, aggressive alien religions increase their influence and natural resources get a little more scarce.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 07 Jun 23 7.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When something is as impossible as going back in time and reversing something then to suggest it, which is what our friend effectively does, is indeed a lie. You can aspire to change things in the future but not in the past. Eastern Europe are laughing at us and our messed-up society. There are many payoffs for a bloke being a boring Conservatively minded Christian in Poland/Hungary/wherever. Living in a society with some gender-balance for one. Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 Jun 2023 7.19pm)
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 07 Jun 23 9.54pm | |
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Generalising about people in a situation,...is not stereotyping.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 07 Jun 23 9.55pm | |
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Then again, you can interpret it any way you wish
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 10.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
As usual, You prefer word games and smartarsery than facing reality. You are a cliché Wisbech. You come out with the same old accusations, excuses and diversions that liberal lefty idealists have been using for years. Meanwhile, the immigrant population grows, the White British population shrinks, violent and organised crime increases, race issues are daily news, aggressive alien religions increase their influence and natural resources get a little more scarce.
If you think these are just "word games", or more accurately semantics, then you are demonstrating, as you always do, your total lack of realism over this issue. There are some difficulties which follow immigration. Some take time to dissipate, but they will only be made worse with your negative attitude. Nothing you ever say has any hint of a positive plan to make things better. You cannot turn back time and redo what's done, even if that was desirable. We are where we are. Now we must deal with where we are, and not where you might prefer that we are. You blame everything you dislike on immigration. Instead, we must try to make it work. Educate the young. Get them to appreciate British culture. They won't grow up like their parents because they will be exposed to us unless people like you shun and isolate them. Show no tolerance at all for those who refuse to accept the rules and standards of their new home. They decided to be here. We set the rules. It just takes some effort to be made and lots of patience. There will be loads of failures but success is normally proceeded by failures. It's how you learn. So man up and stop moaning. Do something to make things better.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 10.57pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Eastern Europe are laughing at us and our messed-up society. There are many payoffs for a bloke being a boring Conservatively minded Christian in Poland/Hungary/wherever. Living in a society with some gender-balance for one. Edited by PalazioVecchio (07 Jun 2023 7.19pm) Perhaps that's why so many of them make their way here to find work? I was talking earlier to someone who works nights operating a forklift in quite a large packing station here. They process food and pack it for the major supermarkets. He tells me that apart from the supervisors he is the only native-born worker there at night. All the rest are immigrants, most supplied by agencies because they cannot get local people to do the work. Most come from Eastern Europe, with some from Africa.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 23 3.00am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The truth is never disingenuous. It's just the truth. Accepting reality is always better than tilting at windmills. It has zilch to do with my politics. I don't want it! It just is. We are where we are. We either accept it and do what we can to make it work, or we waste time ranting. You don't speak the truth on this, or indeed on most subjects. You just complain about things without ever suggesting anything positive that could mitigate the downsides of policies. You want a reversal not only of policies that cannot be reversed but of the past. That's impossible, so it's a lie. I'll let others decide as to who out of us considers lying as a means to an end and who doesn't. As to your suggesting that I just accept what social/neo liberalism has done and is doing to the west and in a limited extent the world I could counter that this is a bit hypocritical (what a surprise) coming from the person who didn't accept Brexit and didn't accept Trump. In terms of my own attitude what I do isn't towards some 'reversal', which would be self deluded hubris of ridiculous proportions. I'm not currently a member of any political party nor involved in 'activism' other than writing based opinions on here and Twitter to an audience of hardly anyone, which is fine by me. In the main this is an avenue for letting off steam at watching the implementation of social/neo liberalism and it's deluded egalitarian 'boomer truth myths' destroy what previous generations spent centuries building. It would be remiss of me to observe the enactment of these crimes - the worsening of social metrics....and just let them pass without comment. This at least satisfies my own conscience. As I stated earlier, you are not required to like it nor comment. You decide to come here. I will have my free speech up till a time when this society not longer allows it. At that point you can fully have your manufactured consent and make believe all you like, as dissent won't get to reach you. The fascism that the progressives pretend to hate so much. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2023 4.45am)
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