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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 22 9.41am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

"We" don't. It was a majority of 160,000 elderly buffoons who comprise the Conservative Party membership who voted for her, against the wisdom of their own MPs I might add

Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting.

Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Oct 22 10.15am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting.

Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets.

As HTG said

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 10.25am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting.

Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets.

The Tory MPs realised that Johnson had stepped over the line too often to continue to lead them, that the general mood in the country was the same and that a change was necessary, both in the country's interest and their own.

Unfortunately the system they used to select their leader resulted in them having someone they didn't want foisted on them by a bunch of unrepresentative activists.

Johnson behaving as he did was what started this Tory slide into oblivion and the probable next Labour government, which is not what I want to see. That Truss is even worse doesn't change that. The MPs won't accept him back, even if the dim activists might.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 22 10.27am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting.

Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets.

Tbf there’s only so much lying people are prepared to take. The current crop of Tories at the top seem to believe they have freedom to do or not do whatever they like as PM and be able to get away with it or wriggle out of it. As time goes people aren’t prepared to put up with this.

What’s interesting from this is the whining that Truss’s policies couldn’t be implemented because of the rest of the world and Covid. I’m afraid these are real events and variables in the real world that have already happened and need to be included in all decisions.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 22 10.58am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The Tory MPs realised that Johnson had stepped over the line too often to continue to lead them, that the general mood in the country was the same and that a change was necessary, both in the country's interest and their own.

Unfortunately the system they used to select their leader resulted in them having someone they didn't want foisted on them by a bunch of unrepresentative activists.

Johnson behaving as he did was what started this Tory slide into oblivion and the probable next Labour government, which is not what I want to see. That Truss is even worse doesn't change that. The MPs won't accept him back, even if the dim activists might.

There is always the bigger picture.

That being that they had no good alternative and that Boris could win the next election.
It is quite astonishing that a government with such a huge majority could commit suicide in such a manner.
Johnson was always a flawed leader, but his flaws were well-known when he was elected. However, the idea that he was somehow a bigger liar than all the other liars in the House of Commons is quite ridiculous.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 22 11.05am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tbf there’s only so much lying people are prepared to take. The current crop of Tories at the top seem to believe they have freedom to do or not do whatever they like as PM and be able to get away with it or wriggle out of it. As time goes people aren’t prepared to put up with this.

What’s interesting from this is the whining that Truss’s policies couldn’t be implemented because of the rest of the world and Covid. I’m afraid these are real events and variables in the real world that have already happened and need to be included in all decisions.

Politics is always about a very broad interpretation of the truth.
I do not believe for a minute that the vast majority of the voting public cared much about 'partygate'.
The whole fuss was manufactured by the puppet media and the opposition.

 

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 18 Oct 22 11.10am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Amazing act of self destruction, perhaps if the party can allow such to happen it is past the sell by date.

There has to be an audience for party with old school Conservative values

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Oct 22 11.11am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Politics is always about a very broad interpretation of the truth.
I do not believe for a minute that the vast majority of the voting public cared much about 'partygate'.
The whole fuss was manufactured by the puppet media and the opposition.


I didn’t. It was other stuff. But I keep hearing from different party voters who did. All you have to do is multiply deaths (funerals tho) by a number of average relatives and close friends and that’s a minimum. It’ll be a lot more

Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Oct 2022 11.16am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 11.40am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is always the bigger picture.

That being that they had no good alternative and that Boris could win the next election.
It is quite astonishing that a government with such a huge majority could commit suicide in such a manner.
Johnson was always a flawed leader, but his flaws were well-known when he was elected. However, the idea that he was somehow a bigger liar than all the other liars in the House of Commons is quite ridiculous.

To some of us, yes, but not to all. Choosing someone who had gained public attention via being a TV personality is what happened in the USA. So we did it too! We chose another populist.

Johnson was never going to be the kind of leader this country needs. That he managed to appeal to the baser instincts of those who would traditionally vote Labour might have been politically clever, but also quite sad. It was clever marketing, and not a demonstration of those values for which we have a hard earned reputation. A reputation which has now been trashed. Started by Johnson and completed by Truss.

Johnson won't be back, and ought not ever play any kind of public role again, except as an entertainer. Something he is actually pretty good at.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Oct 22 11.42am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


I do not believe for a minute that the vast majority of the voting public cared much about 'partygate'.
The whole fuss was manufactured by the puppet media and the opposition.

I agree. The BBC has much to answer for since they changed from reporting the news to creating it.

Currently they are headlining with "Who is running the country Liz Truss or Jeremy Hunt"

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 22 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

To some of us, yes, but not to all. Choosing someone who had gained public attention via being a TV personality is what happened in the USA. So we did it too! We chose another populist.

Johnson was never going to be the kind of leader this country needs. That he managed to appeal to the baser instincts of those who would traditionally vote Labour might have been politically clever, but also quite sad. It was clever marketing, and not a demonstration of those values for which we have a hard earned reputation. A reputation which has now been trashed. Started by Johnson and completed by Truss.

Johnson won't be back, and ought not ever play any kind of public role again, except as an entertainer. Something he is actually pretty good at.

You might say that, but my recollection is that people chose the Tories under Boris over the disgrace that is the Labour Party in a two horse race with one runner trying to ignore a democratic referendum result.

Funny how you have forgotten so quickly.

The same Labour Party incidentally had a massive spend up before they left office, causing the country to need austerity measures to reduce the debt.

 

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman


I didn’t. It was other stuff. But I keep hearing from different party voters who did. All you have to do is multiply deaths (funerals tho) by a number of average relatives and close friends and that’s a minimum. It’ll be a lot more

Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Oct 2022 11.16am)

If people want to hand the reins of government back to Labour on that basis, then they deserve all they get.

 

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