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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 22 9.41am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
"We" don't. It was a majority of 160,000 elderly buffoons who comprise the Conservative Party membership who voted for her, against the wisdom of their own MPs I might add Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting. Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Oct 22 10.15am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting. Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets. As HTG said
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting. Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets. The Tory MPs realised that Johnson had stepped over the line too often to continue to lead them, that the general mood in the country was the same and that a change was necessary, both in the country's interest and their own. Unfortunately the system they used to select their leader resulted in them having someone they didn't want foisted on them by a bunch of unrepresentative activists. Johnson behaving as he did was what started this Tory slide into oblivion and the probable next Labour government, which is not what I want to see. That Truss is even worse doesn't change that. The MPs won't accept him back, even if the dim activists might.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Oct 22 10.27am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Interesting take. Ageist, but interesting. Perhaps those members would have preferred to keep Boris and have a chance of winning the next election, but had that chance taken away by a load of moronic self-serving back benchers and globalist puppets. Tbf there’s only so much lying people are prepared to take. The current crop of Tories at the top seem to believe they have freedom to do or not do whatever they like as PM and be able to get away with it or wriggle out of it. As time goes people aren’t prepared to put up with this. What’s interesting from this is the whining that Truss’s policies couldn’t be implemented because of the rest of the world and Covid. I’m afraid these are real events and variables in the real world that have already happened and need to be included in all decisions.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 22 10.58am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Tory MPs realised that Johnson had stepped over the line too often to continue to lead them, that the general mood in the country was the same and that a change was necessary, both in the country's interest and their own. Unfortunately the system they used to select their leader resulted in them having someone they didn't want foisted on them by a bunch of unrepresentative activists. Johnson behaving as he did was what started this Tory slide into oblivion and the probable next Labour government, which is not what I want to see. That Truss is even worse doesn't change that. The MPs won't accept him back, even if the dim activists might. There is always the bigger picture. That being that they had no good alternative and that Boris could win the next election.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 22 11.05am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Tbf there’s only so much lying people are prepared to take. The current crop of Tories at the top seem to believe they have freedom to do or not do whatever they like as PM and be able to get away with it or wriggle out of it. As time goes people aren’t prepared to put up with this. What’s interesting from this is the whining that Truss’s policies couldn’t be implemented because of the rest of the world and Covid. I’m afraid these are real events and variables in the real world that have already happened and need to be included in all decisions. Politics is always about a very broad interpretation of the truth.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Oct 22 11.10am | |
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Amazing act of self destruction, perhaps if the party can allow such to happen it is past the sell by date. There has to be an audience for party with old school Conservative values
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 18 Oct 22 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Politics is always about a very broad interpretation of the truth.
Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Oct 2022 11.16am)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Oct 22 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
There is always the bigger picture. That being that they had no good alternative and that Boris could win the next election. To some of us, yes, but not to all. Choosing someone who had gained public attention via being a TV personality is what happened in the USA. So we did it too! We chose another populist. Johnson was never going to be the kind of leader this country needs. That he managed to appeal to the baser instincts of those who would traditionally vote Labour might have been politically clever, but also quite sad. It was clever marketing, and not a demonstration of those values for which we have a hard earned reputation. A reputation which has now been trashed. Started by Johnson and completed by Truss. Johnson won't be back, and ought not ever play any kind of public role again, except as an entertainer. Something he is actually pretty good at.
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Midlands Eagle 18 Oct 22 11.42am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I agree. The BBC has much to answer for since they changed from reporting the news to creating it. Currently they are headlining with "Who is running the country Liz Truss or Jeremy Hunt"
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 22 1.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
To some of us, yes, but not to all. Choosing someone who had gained public attention via being a TV personality is what happened in the USA. So we did it too! We chose another populist. Johnson was never going to be the kind of leader this country needs. That he managed to appeal to the baser instincts of those who would traditionally vote Labour might have been politically clever, but also quite sad. It was clever marketing, and not a demonstration of those values for which we have a hard earned reputation. A reputation which has now been trashed. Started by Johnson and completed by Truss. Johnson won't be back, and ought not ever play any kind of public role again, except as an entertainer. Something he is actually pretty good at. You might say that, but my recollection is that people chose the Tories under Boris over the disgrace that is the Labour Party in a two horse race with one runner trying to ignore a democratic referendum result. Funny how you have forgotten so quickly. The same Labour Party incidentally had a massive spend up before they left office, causing the country to need austerity measures to reduce the debt.
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Hrolf The Ganger 18 Oct 22 1.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Edited by Rudi Hedman (18 Oct 2022 11.16am) If people want to hand the reins of government back to Labour on that basis, then they deserve all they get.
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