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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Nov 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Nobody on here has ever said that their race is superior.

I am not so sure if that is true, but in any case, it is the belief that matters. Not whether it is openly stated.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 18 Nov 21 3.33pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not so sure if that is true, but in any case, it is the belief that matters. Not whether it is openly stated.

I see, 'thought crime' - send them all to Room 101.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Nov 21 3.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Then I give due thanks to the fact that you are not a moderator. This section of the Hol would be empty.

If they introduced a rule on waffling your feet wouldn't touch the ground.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Nov 21 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not so sure if that is true, but in any case, it is the belief that matters. Not whether it is openly stated.

Not everyone finds lying as easy as you appear to think.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Nov 21 3.39pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

I see, 'thought crime' - send them all to Room 101.

Yeah, thoughts that he has decided people think and not their actual thoughts.

It is quite disturbing to think that people actually exist who should only belong in dystopian novels.

 

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crystal-purley Flag Purley 18 Nov 21 3.46pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Back on topic, so often derailed by the same old bore

[Link]

Well worth a watch whether you're a fan of cricket or not. Essential if you're a fan of intellect and the beauty (in the right hands, certain posters take note) of the english language. Post-Rafiq, so that is referenced.

5.00 > 49:00 for Fry.


Thank you SW very funny, very interesting elucidating and great cricket reporting.

 


Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 3.56pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by DanH


Excellent input, as always.

Seconded

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Nov 21 3.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Nobody on here has ever said that their race is superior.


superior ? nope.

what about different ? ability to ...

run fast over 100 metres, or a marathon,
do difficult maths,

digest cows milk,
live at high altitude,

conserve heat in the cold,
lose heat in the tropics,

reproduce in numbers,
protect the skin from UV radiation.


Navigate a boring undulating landscape

you know which groups are good at these things, and which are not.
And there is certainly no group that is superior at ALL.


Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Nov 2021 4.04pm)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 18 Nov 21 4.00pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why are people so keen to believe Rafiq? Root....who is as woke as feck and was Ballance's room mate doesn't go along with this idea that there was a highly charged racial environment.

Surely we need to hear the other side of the story.

This I agree with – it is out there if you dig about but as I posted much much earlier, the objectivity in all this is being lost and that is a problem. However I also stated even if his character is in question it's no excuse for being continually subject to racist abuse, assuming most of what he's stating is true.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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BlueJay Flag UK 18 Nov 21 4.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yeah, thoughts that he has decided people think and not their actual thoughts.

It is quite disturbing to think that people actually exist who should only belong in dystopian novels.

Well since you sweepingly labelled Muslims as 'potential terrorists' the other day you ought to know a lot about thought crime. And before you say you didn't, that is precisely what you said and meant. I guess it's only 'happily white' people who have a claim to innocence in your mind.

Unfortunately the OTT way you present your views takes perfectly valid stances (such as wanting to stop mass immigration or forge a workable approach to illegals) and creates an extra hurdle for sensible people and thought to traverse because we all get lumped in with your lazy, catch-all dislike of entire groups of people.


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BlueJay Flag UK 18 Nov 21 4.08pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

what about different ? ability to ...

run fast over 100 metres, or a marathon,

Even then isn't it pointless to overly differentiate... people could say 'oh black people are better at the 100m' then of course we could say what about cycling sprints? what about swimming sprint events? And then does that comes down to genetics, environment, role models? Does it even matter? Who needs to fixate on these differences to begin with in a world that is increasingly intertwined to the extent that plenty of people you can point at don't tick easy, contrived racial boxes to begin with..

And beyond that we don't get to control our family members. Some here are so frantically obsessed with their own race that they would quite clearly be absolutely devastated if their kids procreated with someone of a different race. Whichever way you slice it, such an outlook is at best weird, and at worst a perversion of the inherent value that should be attributed to all people.

Edited by BlueJay (18 Nov 2021 4.09pm)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 18 Nov 21 4.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

This I agree with – it is out there if you dig about but as I posted much much earlier, the objectivity in all this is being lost and that is a problem. However I also stated even if his character is in question it's no excuse for being continually subject to racist abuse, assuming most of what he's stating is true.

Certainly.

I can't help but think that if this was all true that someone would have said something. I mean I'm on the dissentient right and I personally wouldn't have put up with that around me....Aside from being out of order it's incredibly unprofessional.

I suspect things are being turned up to eleven and that plenty suspect it but are scared to say it.

 


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