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cryrst The garden of England 10 Jan 21 4.17am
Originally posted by BlueJay If that's me you're talking about as I had mentioned covid, I certainly didn't mean it so come across that way, as that's not what I believe. So apologies if it did! Edited by BlueJay (09 Jan 2021 11.37pm) It may or may not be but I'm not offended mate, just staing a point. I like the different opinions and responses, and we all have differing ones which is healthy. I can take as I've given it enough. The smile is there for a reason. HOL is a spectrum, not a group of yes men, Play ball
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cryrst

The garden of England 10 Jan 21 4.17am

Originally posted by BlueJay

If that's me you're talking about as I had mentioned covid, I certainly didn't mean it so come across that way, as that's not what I believe. So apologies if it did!

Edited by BlueJay (09 Jan 2021 11.37pm)

It may or may not be but I'm not offended mate, just staing a point. I like the different opinions and responses, and we all have differing ones which is healthy.
I can take as I've given it enough.
The smile is there for a reason.
HOL is a spectrum, not a group of yes men,
Play ball

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Stirlingsays 10 Jan 21 5.13am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you find the events of this week in any way deserving of a laugh then you are even stranger than I already thought you to be. These last 4 years have all been painful so far as observing the USA is concerned but this has been the worst. It really can only get better. Only for the deluded and section of the elites. Certainly not in fiscal and social terms for the working and middle class. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 5.17am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jan 21 5.13am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you find the events of this week in any way deserving of a laugh then you are even stranger than I already thought you to be.

These last 4 years have all been painful so far as observing the USA is concerned but this has been the worst.

It really can only get better.

Only for the deluded and section of the elites.

Certainly not in fiscal and social terms for the working and middle class.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 5.17am)

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cryrst The garden of England 10 Jan 21 8.08am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Only for the deluded and section of the elites. Certainly not in fiscal and social terms for the working and middle class. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 5.17am) Do you think we have insomnia Edited by cryrst (10 Jan 2021 8.09am)
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The garden of England 10 Jan 21 8.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Only for the deluded and section of the elites.

Certainly not in fiscal and social terms for the working and middle class.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 5.17am)

Do you think we have insomnia

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Spiderman Horsham 10 Jan 21 9.03am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Not really valid comparisons. They are all privatised utilities who carry with them the legal obligations placed upon them whilst publically owned. Private companies cannot ever do whatever they like. They have every bit as much responsibility to operate lawfully as everything else. So if our lawmakers decide that the social media companies need to be controlled in some way then that's what will happen. I suspect the trend will though be for them to be required to exercise more oversight, rather than less. That's what most of us think is needed, although not here. Southern Water put us on a water meter with no consultation and we had no choice in the matter. So they did what they wanted but obviously this was not illegal but morally wrong Edited by Spiderman (10 Jan 2021 9.12am)
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Horsham 10 Jan 21 9.03am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not really valid comparisons. They are all privatised utilities who carry with them the legal obligations placed upon them whilst publically owned.

Private companies cannot ever do whatever they like. They have every bit as much responsibility to operate lawfully as everything else.

So if our lawmakers decide that the social media companies need to be controlled in some way then that's what will happen. I suspect the trend will though be for them to be required to exercise more oversight, rather than less. That's what most of us think is needed, although not here.

Southern Water put us on a water meter with no consultation and we had no choice in the matter. So they did what they wanted but obviously this was not illegal but morally wrong

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matthau South Croydon 10 Jan 21 9.53am
Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence. Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today This is the latest from Q You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this - Parler is about to blow, here's a summary. The world is under the control of several trans-generational crime syndicates and elite death cults who merged in recent years under the common goal to impose a one-world despotic government and population reduction to the tune of 90%. After completely compromising every form of global power using pedophilic blackmail as their favored method, elements in the US military loyal to the Republic devised a sophisticated plan of incomprehensible precision to root them out and expose their crimes to the world such that humanity would never allow it to happen again. Trump's first term was for installing the legal framework for a sting operation to ensnare them in a web of treason, espionage and election theft, while demonstrating to the people how close we had come to a communo-fascist hellscape of tyranny echoing the 3rd Reich. You've just turned to the final chapter of a spectacular story that will resonate throughout the ages. God bless USA. 🇺🇸 [Link]
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South Croydon 10 Jan 21 9.53am

Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday

Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence.

Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today

This is the latest from Q

You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this -

Parler is about to blow, here's a summary. The world is under the control of several trans-generational crime syndicates and elite death cults who merged in recent years under the common goal to impose a one-world despotic government and population reduction to the tune of 90%. After completely compromising every form of global power using pedophilic blackmail as their favored method, elements in the US military loyal to the Republic devised a sophisticated plan of incomprehensible precision to root them out and expose their crimes to the world such that humanity would never allow it to happen again. Trump's first term was for installing the legal framework for a sting operation to ensnare them in a web of treason, espionage and election theft, while demonstrating to the people how close we had come to a communo-fascist hellscape of tyranny echoing the 3rd Reich. You've just turned to the final chapter of a spectacular story that will resonate throughout the ages. God bless USA. 🇺🇸
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jan 21 10.29am
Originally posted by matthau Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence. Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today This is the latest from Q You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this - Parler is about to blow, here's a summary. The world is under the control of several trans-generational crime syndicates and elite death cults who merged in recent years under the common goal to impose a one-world despotic government and population reduction to the tune of 90%. After completely compromising every form of global power using pedophilic blackmail as their favored method, elements in the US military loyal to the Republic devised a sophisticated plan of incomprehensible precision to root them out and expose their crimes to the world such that humanity would never allow it to happen again. Trump's first term was for installing the legal framework for a sting operation to ensnare them in a web of treason, espionage and election theft, while demonstrating to the people how close we had come to a communo-fascist hellscape of tyranny echoing the 3rd Reich. You've just turned to the final chapter of a spectacular story that will resonate throughout the ages. God bless USA. 🇺🇸 [Link] I look forward to the mass arrests you have been anticipating. One more point
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Beckenham 10 Jan 21 10.29am

Originally posted by matthau

Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday

Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence.

Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today

This is the latest from Q

You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this -

I look forward to the mass arrests you have been anticipating.

One more point

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 10 Jan 21 10.34am
Originally posted by matthau Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence. Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today This is the latest from Q You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this - Parler is about to blow, here's a summary. The world is under the control of several trans-generational crime syndicates and elite death cults who merged in recent years under the common goal to impose a one-world despotic government and population reduction to the tune of 90%. After completely compromising every form of global power using pedophilic blackmail as their favored method, elements in the US military loyal to the Republic devised a sophisticated plan of incomprehensible precision to root them out and expose their crimes to the world such that humanity would never allow it to happen again. Trump's first term was for installing the legal framework for a sting operation to ensnare them in a web of treason, espionage and election theft, while demonstrating to the people how close we had come to a communo-fascist hellscape of tyranny echoing the 3rd Reich. You've just turned to the final chapter of a spectacular story that will resonate throughout the ages. God bless USA. 🇺🇸 [Link] Well I've read it. And some of the other posts on it. If anyone does take this stuff seriously then I feel sorry for them. And I thought David Icke and Piers Corbyn were crackpots. Edited by kevlee (10 Jan 2021 10.34am) Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 10 Jan 21 10.34am

Originally posted by matthau

Trumps been banned from twitter. I’ve lost my Facebook three times this year, twitter, insta and my new twitter again yesterday

Censorship is real. If it’s conspiracy then you ridicule, ignore - but you don’t silence.

Even parler app is going down now. And q chats in telegram. All silenced today

This is the latest from Q

You’ll laugh now but once the 20ths out the way you might want to re read this -

Well I've read it. And some of the other posts on it.
If anyone does take this stuff seriously then I feel sorry for them. And I thought David Icke and Piers Corbyn were crackpots.

Edited by kevlee (10 Jan 2021 10.34am)

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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Stirlingsays 10 Jan 21 10.43am
Originally posted by cryrst Do you think we have insomnia Edited by cryrst (10 Jan 2021 8.09am) My sleep patterns are weird, I won't deny it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jan 21 10.43am

Originally posted by cryrst

Do you think we have insomnia

Edited by cryrst (10 Jan 2021 8.09am)

My sleep patterns are weird, I won't deny it.

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Stirlingsays 10 Jan 21 10.47am
So Amazon are the latest silicon valley 'cartel' company to join in with the anti free speech purge and remove Parler. 'You will believe what we tell you and no, you can't access another opinion'. Not a free society. There is going to be a price paid here. The position we are now in was not what lawmakers intended when they gifted the advantages these companies have. These are companies acting as political entities in a market they are making anti competitive. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 10.56am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jan 21 10.47am

So Amazon are the latest silicon valley 'cartel' company to join in with the anti free speech purge and remove Parler.

'You will believe what we tell you and no, you can't access another opinion'.

Not a free society.

There is going to be a price paid here.

The position we are now in was not what lawmakers intended when they gifted the advantages these companies have.

These are companies acting as political entities in a market they are making anti competitive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 10.56am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 10 Jan 21 11.22am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays So Amazon are the latest silicon valley 'cartel' company to join in with the anti free speech purge and remove Parler. 'You will believe what we tell you and no, you can't access another opinion'. Not a free society. There is going to be a price paid here. The position we are now in was not what lawmakers intended when they gifted the advantages these companies have. These are companies acting as political entities in a market they are making anti competitive. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 10.56am) This is more bs. The removal has nothing at all to do with free speech, other than in the minds of those who don't understand what it really is. As I have said several times true freedom cannot exist without a balancing responsibility. True freedom only exists under the law. Freedom without the law is anarchy. No democracy will tolerate anarchy. This is the statement by Amazon:- "AWS provides technology and services to customers across the political spectrum, and we continue to respect Parler's right to determine for itself what content it will allow on its site", the letter said. "However we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others."." As encouraging or inciting violence is unlawful Amazon are taking a perfectly reasonable stance by requiring their users to ensure that what is posted remains within the law. Their business. Their rules. They want to be seen as supporting lawful activity and not anarchy. They desire to see lawful free speech, and say so. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 10 Jan 21 11.22am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So Amazon are the latest silicon valley 'cartel' company to join in with the anti free speech purge and remove Parler.

'You will believe what we tell you and no, you can't access another opinion'.

Not a free society.

There is going to be a price paid here.

The position we are now in was not what lawmakers intended when they gifted the advantages these companies have.

These are companies acting as political entities in a market they are making anti competitive.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 10.56am)

This is more bs. The removal has nothing at all to do with free speech, other than in the minds of those who don't understand what it really is.

As I have said several times true freedom cannot exist without a balancing responsibility. True freedom only exists under the law. Freedom without the law is anarchy. No democracy will tolerate anarchy. This is the statement by Amazon:-

"AWS provides technology and services to customers across the political spectrum, and we continue to respect Parler's right to determine for itself what content it will allow on its site", the letter said.

"However we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others."."

As encouraging or inciting violence is unlawful Amazon are taking a perfectly reasonable stance by requiring their users to ensure that what is posted remains within the law.

Their business. Their rules. They want to be seen as supporting lawful activity and not anarchy. They desire to see lawful free speech, and say so.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 10 Jan 21 11.28am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This is more bs. The removal has nothing at all to do with free speech, other than in the minds of those who don't understand what it really is. As I have said several times true freedom cannot exist without a balancing responsibility. True freedom only exists under the law. Freedom without the law is anarchy. No democracy will tolerate anarchy. This is the statement by Amazon:- "AWS provides technology and services to customers across the political spectrum, and we continue to respect Parler's right to determine for itself what content it will allow on its site", the letter said. "However we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others."." As encouraging or inciting violence is unlawful Amazon are taking a perfectly reasonable stance by requiring their users to ensure that what is posted remains within the law. Their business. Their rules. They want to be seen as supporting lawful activity and not anarchy. They desire to see lawful free speech, and say so. Who the hell are 'Amazon' to determine 'lawful free speech'? I state again....despite what you appear to think is bs....These are a cartel of companies working as political entities ensuring that no competitors can arise against them. Once Trump was deplatformed off of Silicon Valley Parler had record downloads of people wanting to access his assumed new account there. To deny his voice is anti freedom. This is a sitting president with over 74 million votes...these companies are not acting lawfully. I'll also state again, this was not the intent of the lawmakers who gave these companies the advantages and protections they have abused. The fact that the 'one nation conservative' supports this is just more ample evidence of your deceit....certainly from the era of politicians who proclaimed that description. Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 11.36am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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10 Jan 21 11.28am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is more bs. The removal has nothing at all to do with free speech, other than in the minds of those who don't understand what it really is.

"However we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others."."

As encouraging or inciting violence is unlawful Amazon are taking a perfectly reasonable stance by requiring their users to ensure that what is posted remains within the law.

Their business. Their rules. They want to be seen as supporting lawful activity and not anarchy. They desire to see lawful free speech, and say so.

Who the hell are 'Amazon' to determine 'lawful free speech'?

I state again....despite what you appear to think is bs....These are a cartel of companies working as political entities ensuring that no competitors can arise against them.

Once Trump was deplatformed off of Silicon Valley Parler had record downloads of people wanting to access his assumed new account there.

To deny his voice is anti freedom. This is a sitting president with over 74 million votes...these companies are not acting lawfully.

I'll also state again, this was not the intent of the lawmakers who gave these companies the advantages and protections they have abused.

The fact that the 'one nation conservative' supports this is just more ample evidence of your deceit....certainly from the era of politicians who proclaimed that description.

Edited by Stirlingsays (10 Jan 2021 11.36am)

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Eaglecoops CR3 10 Jan 21 11.29am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you find the events of this week in any way deserving of a laugh then you are even stranger than I already thought you to be. These last 4 years have all been painful so far as observing the USA is concerned but this has been the worst. It really can only get better. Yep I can hear the chants now: “We need a war. We need a war. We need a war”. What’s the betting the US begin a conflict in the next 12 months?
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