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serial thriller The Promised Land 08 Jun 17 9.08pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger WE know that weapons are generally purchased with use in mind for sure but your view point is born from the idealistic notion that people will stop killing if you stop selling them weapons. They won't, and for the umpteenth time let me repeat that others will sell them weapons instead. It is therefore pointless to stop selling weapons for national profit on moral grounds. So why are we not selling arms to ISIS when they would evidently be such a reliable customer? If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 08 Jun 17 9.08pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

WE know that weapons are generally purchased with use in mind for sure but your view point is born from the idealistic notion that people will stop killing if you stop selling them weapons. They won't, and for the umpteenth time let me repeat that others will sell them weapons instead.
It is therefore pointless to stop selling weapons for national profit on moral grounds.

So why are we not selling arms to ISIS when they would evidently be such a reliable customer?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 9.10pm
Originally posted by serial thriller And yet when a politician comes along promising to challenge that, you shout him down as a terrorist's friend... No, it's just politician's bollocks. He'd find out, very rapidly, that quitting the arms industry would be completely untenable. I "shout him down", as you call it, because what he says is utterly naïve and unrealistic. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Originally posted by serial thriller

And yet when a politician comes along promising to challenge that, you shout him down as a terrorist's friend...

No, it's just politician's bollocks. He'd find out, very rapidly, that quitting the arms industry would be completely untenable. I "shout him down", as you call it, because what he says is utterly naïve and unrealistic.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 9.10pm
Originally posted by legaleagle Not entirely sure how that logic translates to say Saudis being better able to beat sh*t out of local shias and not sticking to anything we would call rules Also,not entirely sure in the US that people would trust others not to get illicit arms.. How ever you spin it, there is an economic and strategic reality about it that cannot be ignored in the real world. It is not advantageous to allow your rivals to sell arms instead of you. The same people will still die.
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Originally posted by legaleagle

Not entirely sure how that logic translates to say Saudis being better able to beat sh*t out of local shias and not sticking to anything we would call rules

Also,not entirely sure in the US that people would trust others not to get illicit arms..

How ever you spin it, there is an economic and strategic reality about it that cannot be ignored in the real world.
It is not advantageous to allow your rivals to sell arms instead of you. The same people will still die.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 9.12pm
Originally posted by serial thriller So why are we not selling arms to ISIS when they would evidently be such a reliable customer? How do you know we haven't? We sold weapons to Saddam apparently.
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Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jun 17 9.12pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

So why are we not selling arms to ISIS when they would evidently be such a reliable customer?

How do you know we haven't?

We sold weapons to Saddam apparently.

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serial thriller The Promised Land 08 Jun 17 9.13pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger How do you know we haven't? We sold weapons to Saddam apparently. Oh wow ermmm...you got me there. Are you suggesting we are selling weapons to isis on the sly? If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 08 Jun 17 9.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

How do you know we haven't?

We sold weapons to Saddam apparently.

Oh wow ermmm...you got me there.

Are you suggesting we are selling weapons to isis on the sly?

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 9.17pm
Watch the episode of Yes Minister called "The Whisky Priest". It explains the attitude of government towards the armaments business. It's as valid and relevant now as it was then. I've even got a link to save you looking. [Link] Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 9.17pm

Watch the episode of Yes Minister called "The Whisky Priest".

It explains the attitude of government towards the armaments business. It's as valid and relevant now as it was then.

I've even got a link to save you looking.

[Link]

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 17 9.19pm
Originally posted by serial thriller Oh wow ermmm...you got me there. Are you suggesting we are selling weapons to isis on the sly? I hope not, but they might have acquired British weapons second hand so to speak. The point is it doesn't really matter where they got them because they got them. There is no shortage of arms dealers.
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Hrolf The Ganger

08 Jun 17 9.19pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

Oh wow ermmm...you got me there.

Are you suggesting we are selling weapons to isis on the sly?

I hope not, but they might have acquired British weapons second hand so to speak. The point is it doesn't really matter where they got them because they got them. There is no shortage of arms dealers.

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 9.58pm
Why was Fox News but not CNN blocked on Sky today? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 08 Jun 17 9.58pm

Why was Fox News but not CNN blocked on Sky today?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Mstrobez 08 Jun 17 10.02pm
Exit polls saying a hung parliament. We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

08 Jun 17 10.02pm

Exit polls saying a hung parliament.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 08 Jun 17 10.04pm
con 314 lab 266 lib 14 snp34 others 22
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Shizzlehurst 08 Jun 17 10.04pm

con 314
lab 266
lib 14
snp34
others 22

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 08 Jun 17 10.04pm
Nick gusset and Kermit must be prematurely popping the socialist champagne right now. Exit poll predicts a hung parliament. But we know how inaccurate polls are with shy (embarrassed) Tory voters. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 08 Jun 17 10.04pm

Nick gusset and Kermit must be prematurely popping the socialist champagne right now. Exit poll predicts a hung parliament. But we know how inaccurate polls are with shy (embarrassed) Tory voters.

COYP

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