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BlueJay UK 09 Jan 21 6.16pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I just looked odd to have the 'last laugh' at such a grim death laden scenario. It was just the wording really, no big concern! And yes we should all laugh at politicians, they are all feathering their own nest. The principled ones more often than not never make it to positions of power, on account that they're not compromised or can't be bought off. But yes, you're right to speak your mind no matter what you have to say!
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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jan 21 6.16pm | |
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Originally posted by nead1
What an extraordinary post Cryst! I don't have any "troop" - my opinions are just that, my own. As to your comments about future wars in the ME, the most likely source of any problems in that region will be related to Israel - a big US/Trump ally. Let's see what unfolds and get back in touch in 2 years time! No more extraordinary than than yours tbh.
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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jan 21 6.24pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I just looked odd to have the 'last laugh' at such a grim death laden scenario. It was just the wording really, no big concern! And yes we should all laugh at politicians, they are all feathering their own nest. The principled ones more often than not never make it to positions of power, on account that they're not compromised or can't be bought off. But yes, you're right to speak your mind no matter what you have to say! Tbh I have got in trouble more than once for saying what I think so I will square that with in the company around you and subject matter .
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BlueJay UK 09 Jan 21 6.30pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Tbh I have got in trouble more than once for saying what I think so I will square that with in the company around you and subject matter . Yes, hindsight is wonderful thing, and it's easy in an ever changing situation to imagine that we'd have known better. I do think he should've flip flopped less and acted with more conviction, but I certainly don't envy him for the position he's in.
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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 21 6.33pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
It's false to state that in anything like a definitive way. Multiple polls suggest that the majority of Americans want him removed from power immediately. or that his popularity has fallen as does the realclearpolitics poll aggregator and so on You're painting something in such a way that you either should or do know is not accurate.
This is a link to an average of polls, showing him on 41.9 percent yesterday. If you look at polls underneath you will see a wide variance with some of the polls touching even 50 percent for Trump. Considering the near one way traffic of media bias against him it's impressive. So what I said is basically true, there wasn't much reaction to his numbers from this event. It even proved popular in some polls. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2021 6.34pm)
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BlueJay UK 09 Jan 21 6.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This is a link to an average of polls, showing him on 41.9 percent yesterday. If you look at polls underneath you will see a wide variance with some of the polls touching even 50 percent for Trump. So what I said is basically true, there wasn't much reaction to his numbers from this event. It even proved popular in some polls. I'll have a look! .. As the riot happened on the 6th these I assume are the polls of relevance (attached). They have on the page resulted in his approval rating dropping over the past few days. Not considerably though, and it's weighted towards number of polls really, so I suppose the direction of travel can be ascertained when more come in. Maybe the twitter banning will level things out as that appears to have moved events on a little. Polls do suggest that half of Republicans are very unhappy at recent events (why a majority of Americans it appears may want Trump removed). At the same time though, it does appear to take heaven and earth to change party allegiance or change a long held view so it will be interesting to see polls over the next week or so. It will be interesting to see how the Republican party rebuilds or adapts going forward, especially with Trump commentating on the sidelines. Attachment: poll.GIF (27.36Kb)
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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 21 7.01pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I'll have a look! .. As the riot happened on the 6th these I assume are the polls of relevance (attached). They have on the page resulted in his approval rating dropping over the past few days. Not considerably though, and it's weighted towards number of polls really, so I suppose the direction of travel can be ascertained when more come in. Maybe the twitter banning will level things out as that appears to have moved events on a little. Polls do suggest that half of Republicans are very unhappy at recent events (why a majority of Americans it appears may want Trump removed). At the same time though, it does appear to take heaven and earth to change party allegiance or change a long held view so it will be interesting to see polls over the next week or so. It will be interesting to see how the Republican party rebuilds or adapts going forward, especially with Trump commentating on the sidelines. I showed a Gallop poll on here yesterday showing 45/43 approval amongst republicans for events at the capitol. And considering Trump didn't even approve of those events I'll regard my original contention as quite safe. And again....considering the massive political and constant media barrage against him I'll be surprised if there is any significant dent. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2021 7.03pm)
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BlueJay UK 09 Jan 21 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I showed a Gallop poll on here yesterday showing 45/43 approval amongst republicans for events at the capitol. And considering Trump didn't even approve of those events I'll regard my original contention as quite safe. And again....considering the massive political and constant media barrage against him I'll be surprised if there is any significant dent. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2021 7.03pm) Yes, it sounds like he was absolutely devastated and just couldn't see how it had come to this .
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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 21 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Yes, it sounds like he was absolutely devastated and just couldn't see how it had come to this . I would think he would have been a bit concerned for the security he knew there but also initially pleased at the power he has. He has genuine power that doesn't require orders to military.
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BlueJay UK 09 Jan 21 7.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I would think he would have been a bit concerned for the security he knew there but also initially pleased at the power he has. He has genuine power that doesn't require orders to military. I didn't think it had anything to do with him?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Jan 21 7.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
On the Brexit thread when you said it’s the responsibility of politicians to do what they think is best rather than what the electorate want. That’s what Trump has done. What I said was, and is, that our MPs are not delegates but representatives. As such they must use their collective judgements to decide what they believe is in our best interests. That's not the same as one individual just acting on his own personal beliefs, which is what Trump does. The analogy would be better employed for members of the Congress than for a President. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (09 Jan 2021 7.58pm)
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Stirlingsays 09 Jan 21 8.09pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I didn't think it had anything to do with him? Ha!
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