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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 21 9.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'd say that my heritage going back thousands of years is under attack, as well as the culture That I was happy to be surrounded by. The difference between humans is irrelevant. The figure you quote is irrelevant. Chimps are only 2% different to us. Worms aren't much more. This is all typical feeble Wisbech waffle designed to avoid what is clear and obvious. You really make yourself look a tit when you mention skin colour. Skin colour is happenstance. You can get a different skin colour by sun bathing. This kind of stupid reductive argument is why you get so much stick on these boards. I think a Chicken Tikki Masala is a good idiom to describe people like you. Your heritage is likely to be as mixed as mine, or any other person born in the UK. It was you who mentioned genetics. I was merely pointing out the truth, that genetics per se have nothing to do with it. I am glad you dismiss skin colour as irrelevant. I'll remind you of that the next time you mention anything to do with being "white"!
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BlueJay UK 29 Jul 21 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
When capitalism allows the vast majority to live in comfort and security, then it is succeeding. Financial equality for all is not an option. We are all the victims and the beneficiaries of capitalism. In practice we're not the ones who get to make the choice about which flavour of capitalism we prefer. We get to moan, and a political 'at least the other guy didn't get in' illusion of choice and that's about it. Everything around us suggests as much. It's not the impact on us that sets direction, or even when it does temporarily, any power vacuum is quickly filled with the same characters.
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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Jul 21 9.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Your heritage is likely to be as mixed as mine, or any other person born in the UK. It was you who mentioned genetics. I was merely pointing out the truth, that genetics per se have nothing to do with it. I am glad you dismiss skin colour as irrelevant. I'll remind you of that the next time you mention anything to do with being "white"! Mixed? My heritage is all Northern European, like most people whose ancestors have lived here for thousands of years. My whiteness seems to be a big problem for some people these days, however, it's rarely White people who make an issue of their colour.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 21 10.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Mixed? My heritage is all Northern European, like most people whose ancestors have lived here for thousands of years. My whiteness seems to be a big problem for some people these days, however, it's rarely White people who make an issue of their colour. You have no more idea of your heritage than anyone else, unless someone has done a very extensive check on it. It is likely to be mostly "Northern European" but not "all". You DO make a big issue of your "whiteness". The very fact you mention it at all is evidence of that. Most of us never even consider it, let alone classify ourselves by it, as you do. I am British, living in the modern UK in 2021, accompanied by other British people, and others who have chosen to live with us.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 Jul 21 11.40pm | |
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This is from the 2001 UK census. The census ethnic groups included White (White British, White Irish, Other White), Mixed (White and Black Caribbean, White and Black African, White and Asian, Other Mixed), Asian or Asian British (Indian, pakistani, Bangladeshi, Other Asian), Black or Black British (Black Caribbean, African, Other Black) and Chinese or Other Ethnic Group. So the Government considers it at all levels national and local. BLM and their fellow travellers consider it every day. And so the list goes on The BBC considers it in hiring policy as do many companies now who have instituted what is effectively affirmative action in new hires. Everyone entitled to their opinion etc. Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You have no more idea of your heritage than anyone else, unless someone has done a very extensive check on it. It is likely to be mostly "Northern European" but not "all". You DO make a big issue of your "whiteness". The very fact you mention it at all is evidence of that. Most of us never even consider it, let alone classify ourselves by it, as you do. I am British, living in the modern UK in 2021, accompanied by other British people, and others who have chosen to live with us.
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Matov 30 Jul 21 8.42am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You DO make a big issue of your "whiteness". The very fact you mention it at all is evidence of that. Most of us never even consider it, let alone classify ourselves by it, as you do. 'Whiteness' is now the crucial factor in our new reality. What BLM put forward as the cause of all evils. And as we all know, they are the standard by what all else is adjudged. Personally, I say we should embrace it. In this era of identity politics, why should we be left out? If we are going to be defined by our skin colour, or even shades of in terms of expressions such as 'Gammons' (one I love btw), then why should we be denied this? Personally, I see 'whiteness' as a thing of beauty. Of tradition. Of preserving the traditional family unit and so on. Not anti-anybody else just pro ourselves. What is wrong with that?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 21 8.44am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
This is from the 2001 UK census. The census ethnic groups included White (White British, White Irish, Other White), Mixed (White and Black Caribbean, White and Black African, White and Asian, Other Mixed), Asian or Asian British (Indian, pakistani, Bangladeshi, Other Asian), Black or Black British (Black Caribbean, African, Other Black) and Chinese or Other Ethnic Group. So the Government considers it at all levels national and local. BLM and their fellow travellers consider it every day. And so the list goes on The BBC considers it in hiring policy as do many companies now who have instituted what is effectively affirmative action in new hires. Everyone entitled to their opinion etc. That it is asked in census questions is no indication at all of how often people think about this. I personally find it offensive to be asked and think it to be a mistake to introduce such a concept at an "official" level. I think that's the only time most of us give it a passing thought. My opinion, of course. That those who feel disadvantaged by the way others remain prejudiced about skin colour are obliged to consider it, is no argument. What choice have they got? I guess no-one would be happier than them for it to be unnecessary. If the BBC, or anyone else, actually determines policy on skin colour (and not affirmatively seeking to overcome disadvantage) then they deserve condemnation.
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Stirlingsays 30 Jul 21 9.36am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
'Whiteness' is now the crucial factor in our new reality. What BLM put forward as the cause of all evils. And as we all know, they are the standard by what all else is adjudged. Personally, I say we should embrace it. In this era of identity politics, why should we be left out? If we are going to be defined by our skin colour, or even shades of in terms of expressions such as 'Gammons' (one I love btw), then why should we be denied this? Personally, I see 'whiteness' as a thing of beauty. Of tradition. Of preserving the traditional family unit and so on. Not anti-anybody else just pro ourselves. What is wrong with that? We had a black poster on here say he was 'pro black but not anti white'. He received no criticism from the supposedly 'anti racists' on here.....though he specifically showed a preference on race. Indeed, they carried on displaying their fetish for any stance he took on anything. I didn't criticise him for his preference, however I certainly do criticise the hypocrisy. We live in a manufactured society where group preference on race has been demonised to what I'd suggest is absurdist religious levels and it travels against all natural inclination. However the demonisation only appears to be applied to whites or to be more accurate genetic Europeans. It is perfectly natural to identity with your genetics without this being seen as some kind of hatred of others. It's just common sense that the less whites there are in this country the worst it will get for them in this country in all important areas.
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cryrst The garden of England 30 Jul 21 9.38am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That it is asked in census questions is no indication at all of how often people think about this. I personally find it offensive to be asked and think it to be a mistake to introduce such a concept at an "official" level. I think that's the only time most of us give it a passing thought. My opinion, of course. That those who feel disadvantaged by the way others remain prejudiced about skin colour are obliged to consider it, is no argument. What choice have they got? I guess no-one would be happier than them for it to be unnecessary. If the BBC, or anyone else, actually determines policy on skin colour (and not affirmatively seeking to overcome disadvantage) then they deserve condemnation. "IF" the BBC. Omg wissy are you really that naive?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 21 9.56am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
"IF" the BBC. Omg wissy are you really that naive? Not at all. You, and several others on here, are extremely biased about the BBC and read things into their approach that "just aint so". You see the BBC as having a left leaning tilt, and not reflecting right opinion. Those on the left see it precisely the other way. Those in the middle, like me, think they do a pretty good balancing job in often difficult circumstances. They are never going to satisfy everyone.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Jul 21 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by Matov
'Whiteness' is now the crucial factor in our new reality. What BLM put forward as the cause of all evils. And as we all know, they are the standard by what all else is adjudged. Personally, I say we should embrace it. In this era of identity politics, why should we be left out? If we are going to be defined by our skin colour, or even shades of in terms of expressions such as 'Gammons' (one I love btw), then why should we be denied this? Personally, I see 'whiteness' as a thing of beauty. Of tradition. Of preserving the traditional family unit and so on. Not anti-anybody else just pro ourselves. What is wrong with that? I have no knowledge of, or interest in, the aims of BLM as a political movement, but somehow I doubt that they see "whiteness" as any kind of factor, let alone the crucial one. Disadvantage arising from prejudicial attitudes has to be the motivation. That that arises from people with a different skin colour is unimportant. It is essential that we stop confusing these things. If you wish to categorise yourself with an identity, choose one that means something. Anglo-Saxon perhaps?
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Matov 30 Jul 21 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no knowledge of, or interest in, the aims of BLM as a political movement, but somehow I doubt that they see "whiteness" as any kind of factor, let alone the crucial one. Disadvantage arising from prejudicial attitudes has to be the motivation. That that arises from people with a different skin colour is unimportant. It is essential that we stop confusing these things. Have you actually been in a coma for the last 18 months? BLM define 'whiteness' as the actual problem. Want it eradicated. That is the point of them. Why don't you educate yourself.
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