Can I suggest that you look up the propoganda used by the National socialists in Germany and by the British Union of fascists in the uk during the 1930s and tell me the difference between that and some of the material used in the leave campaign...i think you would find that Goebbels and Lord Haw Haw would have been proud.
And i didnt say that most leavers were rascist, i know some personally who arent, but what is concerning is that some leavers (notably on this forum) will not condemn the arson attacks, graffiti and other hate crimes but instead sound like apologists for them even justifying them....i think its them that need to lie down. Its like they know the brown shirts are perpetuating crimes but are happy to turn a blind eye.
On a separate note i saw a mate of mine this morning who has two kids (aged 6&2) who is a builder who was told yesterday that his firm has had 3 big building projects shelved in the wake of brexit. He bought a house 4 months ago and is very worried about his job/mortgage etc. 'There werent many happy faces when we were told yesterday' he said to me 'but nearly all of the same idiots (his words) were blowing a weeks wages celebrating only two weeks ago'....

Haha hoof!!! your retirement didnt last long, but welcome back!
I see you are desperately looking for someone else to blame again but you really cant blame anyone else for this catastrophe that as been caused by the leave vote. I'afraid the legacy for the sterling crisis, the biggest drop in consumer confidence in 21 years, the biggest constitutional crisis since ww2 and the estimated 1 million distressed households will lie firmly at leave voters feet.
I know you wont agree and will desperately look to scapegoat someone else but please just throw humanity a bone and condemn hate crime, because the leave voters silence on this issue is truly disgusting

What an excellent post.Well done Hoof.

Sorry hoof, cant let you go that easily, too many rats have left the ship you have just sunk, plus to be honest the HOL is a better place with you on it.
I condemn all race attacks on Nigel Farage, and i dont think there are 17 million nazis but about 5million far right (and left) dangerous bigots sounds about right to me

It sounds like it to me too, but equally it doesn't sound outrageous. Maybe its only 3m? 3m would be 1 in 20 of the population and I am pretty sure 1 in 20 of the population are racists - whether they object to people's colour, to other ethnic groups coming and taking our jobs, or jewish people conspiring to take over the world.

Even if it is only 2m, that would be plenty enough to have won the referendum.

Us remainers may be 'pant-wetting', anti-democratic, out-of-touch liberals, but the Brexiteers have to accept that they are in bed with a very nasty strand of racists and that the racist element in the brexit vote was very significant.

If this referendum has shown anything, it is that referendums are a very stupid way of making decisions (I knew that already), and that mature, representative democracy has an absolute duty to protect people from themselves.

There are many within the political elite who pay lip service to the referendum saying, "we should respect the will of the people....." but then clearly acting as if they intend to defy the result or at least water it down as far as possible.

I know they have to play to the balcony in doing so but I hope it will not be too long before someone of some stature comes out and says that we should 'listen' to the voice of the people and address many of their concerns, but for the good of our own country, as well as others, we should remain within the EU and, in a binary sense, ignore the referendum result.

Some things are much more important than counting heads.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!

My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.

(Member of the School of Optimism 1969-2016 inclusive)

You obviously weren't around in the 70s. These things were far more mainstream then than they are now, and were a far greater concern. As I said, Britain is a moderate country by tradition and the political landscape, in spite of your suggestion that we're in constitutional crisis, is simply far, far too settled for extremism of any hue to even get a look in.