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 PalazioVecchio  south pole 06 Jun 23 3.43pm |
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be under no allusions folks. The numerical magnitude of people movements today is enormous. And what pales into insignificance is the movements of past history : - the Roman invasion of Britannia - the Norman conquest of Ireland
all small potatoes compared to the numbers arriving in today Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 Jun 2023 7.47pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger  06 Jun 23 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
At least this thread is about immigration so you have not dragged it in, as you do with everything else. You reveal your real concern in stark detail in your post. You aren't actually concerned about immigration at all. Your concern is the colour of the immigrant's skin. There's not a lot more that needs to be said about that. What it defines you as is obvious. I am happy to know that our new citizens are out and about enjoying the beauty of England. Long may it continue. The more they appreciate it the more bonded they will become to British culture and to us. No doubt you would rather they stayed in their "own" communities, isolated from us and watching streamed TV from Asia or Eastern Europe so that "our" beauty spots are left for us "white" people to enjoy! We certainly do have problems with immigration. Many can be, and are being, solved but people like you are also a problem and you are making no effort at all to solve it. Yes because all of those Eastern Europeans have a different skin colour. Try thinking before you post your trite crap. Constantly using skin tone to obfuscate the real issue is yet another one of your pathetic tactics. You call yourself a centrist. Everything about you smacks of a typical lefty.
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| georgenorman 06 Jun 23 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yes because all of those Eastern Europeans have a different skin colour. Try thinking before you post your trite crap. Constantly using skin tone to obfuscate the real issue is yet another one of your pathetic tactics. You call yourself a centrist. Everything about you smacks of a typical lefty. Wisbelch has plumbed new depths in casually calling you a racist.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 06 Jun 23 11.47pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It's a long time ago but as I remember it it was quite seriously suggested that the Philippines should prepare for this. Don't think it has actually happened though. As I said, gossip
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 06 Jun 23 11.51pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Wisbelch has plumbed new depths in casually calling you a racist. Nothing casual I can see. Irony of course is that WE identified people by their appearance / skin colour in assuming where they were from in the world.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 8.00am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A disingenuous point, you will be long gone before the issues elsewhere are visited upon Cornwall in significance. The very fact that you get to enjoy what your politics will destroy for those coming after is precisely why your hypocrisy will be pointed out. Huge selfishness.....instead of planting trees, whose shade you will never sit in....you are part of ripping them up from their roots. So you can make as many deflections as you like it won't stop me from stating the truth. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2023 6.24pm) The truth is never disingenuous. It's just the truth. Accepting reality is always better than tilting at windmills. It has zilch to do with my politics. I don't want it! It just is. We are where we are. We either accept it and do what we can to make it work, or we waste time ranting. You don't speak the truth on this, or indeed on most subjects. You just complain about things without ever suggesting anything positive that could mitigate the downsides of policies. You want a reversal not only of policies that cannot be reversed but of the past. That's impossible, so it's a lie.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 8.08am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yes because all of those Eastern Europeans have a different skin colour. Try thinking before you post your trite crap. Constantly using skin tone to obfuscate the real issue is yet another one of your pathetic tactics. You call yourself a centrist. Everything about you smacks of a typical lefty. What I was responding to was this that you posted:- "I was in Dorset this weekend at a well known beauty spot, and you would think it was somewhere between Asia and Eastern Europe." Somewhere between Asia and Eastern Europe would indicate that not all are from Eastern Europe! From the middle east perhaps? Maybe some from Eastern Europe and some from Asia? So dismount your high horse and read what I said in the context of what you actually wrote. Not what you wished you have written.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 8.10am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Wisbelch has plumbed new depths in casually calling you a racist. I didn't. That you interpret it that way is your responsibility.
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Jun 23 8.11am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The truth is never disingenuous. It's just the truth. Accepting reality is always better than tilting at windmills. It has zilch to do with my politics. I don't want it! It just is. We are where we are. We either accept it and do what we can to make it work, or we waste time ranting. You don't speak the truth on this, or indeed on most subjects. You just complain about things without ever suggesting anything positive that could mitigate the downsides of policies. You want a reversal not only of policies that cannot be reversed but of the past. That's impossible, so it's a lie. To be accurate that is not a lie, it might be an aspiration or a desire but it's not a lie, so I think you owe an apology for labelling someone as a liar who is not.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jun 23 8.13am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Nothing casual I can see. Irony of course is that WE identified people by their appearance / skin colour in assuming where they were from in the world. I didn't. As I have already explained. I know they are immigrants.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 07 Jun 23 8.55am |
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Big Brother is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration. Nobody has ever seen Big Brother. He is a face on the hoardings, a voice on the telescreen. We may be reasonably sure that he will never die, and there is already considerable uncertainty as to when he was born. Big Brother is the guise in which the Party chooses to exhibit itself to the world.
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| georgenorman 07 Jun 23 8.59am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn't. That you interpret it that way is your responsibility. What you posted said: "You aren't actually concerned about immigration at all. Your concern is the colour of the immigrant's skin. There's not a lot more that needs to be said about that. What it defines you as is obvious." The interpretation is obvious - you are calling him a racist. What interpretation would you like us to make? When you say "What it defines you as is obvious", what is obvious - state it clearly. Edited by georgenorman (07 Jun 2023 9.59am)
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