Well since you openly support a fringe group that would like to deport my British born partner on racial grounds, and is coming under increased attention of intelligence services due to its extreme ties, of course you would believe this.

At the end of the day a democratic nation is under attack by its neighbour. If some don't care on ethnicity grounds it doesn't much change the reality of those innocents dealing with in whose country is being invaded. This idea that we should bring Russia into the fold, and not do anything (including sanctions) due to their nuclear threat is a green light to invasion of further countries. Tough sanctions are needed at minimum. It needs to be a net loss for Russia even if it's the same for those seeking to reign them in.

Edited by BlueJay (24 Feb 2022 2.41pm)

The Slovak/Ukraine border at Uzhhorod is nuts literally thousands and thousands of people trying to get out of Ukraine.

If Putin goes after the Balkans were looking at full scale war in Europe, this is why id be reinforcing the living piss out of the Balkans,Poland,Slovakia,Romania etc.

Fighting alongside the Slovak army or getting my family back here to the UK and fighting in the British army has admittedly crossed my mind, I am actually in the process of joining the Army reserves here anyway.

And then there is Taiwan...
As the US inevitably gets more involved with Ukraine the more likely China fancies having a go at Taiwan.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

Quite pathetic, as pathetic as your false claims to care for democracy because when it comes down to it...it's self interest before principle. No better than who you complain about.

I remember you gloating to me in a DM about how my grandchildren would be mixed race....As though I'd hate them or something.

You try to present yourself as balanced but I've long since come to realise that the presentation is false.

Is anyone actually suggesting that we could just bring Russia into the fold?....who said that? We were talking about how we got here not what is directly facing us.

In terms of Russia, yes sanctions, support for Ukrainian independence and dialogue that remains calm, practical and sensible.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I agree completely. This is an old man trying to make his mark.

He has ensured his lifelong presidency and kills off anyone who stands against him.
He is happy to invade a sovereign state because he knows the West will do nothing.

Are we really expected to trust in his sanity? Is he clever, or an ageing, dangerous megalomaniac?

I couldn't care less what is good for Russia. I am only interested in my children and grand children not being vaporized.

This insane action by Putin has just put us all more at risk.

The Russian Navy were on manoeuvres near Cork & Kerry last month.

Had they invaded ireland, they would have done less damage to the country than already wreaked by the EU.

So many brainwashed eejits on this site.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Saying I'd like Russia to be part of Nato isn't saying that we can just put Russia into it now is it. It's saying that is what should have been worked on in the past and it's a reflection of understanding that Europe should be working towards a lack of military division, not the opposite.

Anyone who looks into the last thirty years since the Berlin came down can see how the entire Russia/Nato relationship has been entirely mishandled. The painting of good and evil that some want is just not a true reflection of reality.

I don't remember suggesting no sanctions regarding Ukraine.....As for actions I'd pretty said what I think and agree with what Dan said, the Nato countries need reinforcement.

However, talk on our side of widening war with a nuclear state like Russia needs calmness and realism.....not hot heads.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Feb 2022 3.06pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)