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Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Aug 21 8.28pm
Originally posted by croydon proud You could have something there, I was listening to the defence minister today on the radio, before the attacks, saying an attack is imminent, I thought if you are so sure it"s coming why don"t you stop it!I also thought it would be a great exit strategy for us, then it happened, bit fishy! How do you stop it? I believe there are two ways into the airport & you probably have 40,000/50,000 people pushing to get in, the entrances are narrow with an open sewage canal running parrallel to the walkway which afghans have been standing in upto their waist to ease the crush, its the perfect killzone. The perimeter is controlled by the taliban. All you have to do is fill a rucksack full of explosives and patiently wade your way towards the entrance and push a button, im fairly sure the Taliban waved through the bombers anyway. The problem is the american order to not leave the airfield & secure a wider perimeter. We have thousands of Taliban and isis surrounding the airport on all sides, they can literally send in as many suicide bombers as they like, its so crowded its impossible for anyone to ID a bomber let alone shoot one without killing everyone stood shoulder to shoulder with the bomber. Were so f***ed if isis and the Taliban wanted to overrun the airport im fairly sure every western soldier in that airport would be massacred in the space of a day. The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 26 Aug 21 8.28pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

You could have something there, I was listening to the defence minister today on the radio, before the attacks, saying an attack is imminent, I thought if you are so sure it"s coming why don"t you stop it!I also thought it would be a great exit strategy for us, then it happened, bit fishy!

How do you stop it?
I believe there are two ways into the airport & you probably have 40,000/50,000 people pushing to get in, the entrances are narrow with an open sewage canal running parrallel to the walkway which afghans have been standing in upto their waist to ease the crush, its the perfect killzone.

The perimeter is controlled by the taliban.
All you have to do is fill a rucksack full of explosives and patiently wade your way towards the entrance and push a button, im fairly sure the Taliban waved through the bombers anyway.

The problem is the american order to not leave the airfield & secure a wider perimeter.
We have thousands of Taliban and isis surrounding the airport on all sides, they can literally send in as many suicide bombers as they like, its so crowded its impossible for anyone to ID a bomber let alone shoot one without killing everyone stood shoulder to shoulder with the bomber.

Were so f***ed if isis and the Taliban wanted to overrun the airport im fairly sure every western soldier in that airport would be massacred in the space of a day.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.31pm
Originally posted by Matov It stinks. Its clear that this 'noble enemy' narrative is the line they are taking ever since our highest Army commander went on TV and said that Taliban were just 'country boys' who did not like corruption. And this entire spiel about the Taliban warning of an imminent attack has been pushed for hours today, well before the actual bombs went off. Supposedly the gates to the airport are being welded shut, even as I write this but I have to stress, that is from sources I would not vouch for 100 per cent. You seem to have it sussed Matov, I just don"t trust any officialdom in a crisis, even without it, thats why I was pondering the" get out" clause.
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Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.31pm

Originally posted by Matov

It stinks. Its clear that this 'noble enemy' narrative is the line they are taking ever since our highest Army commander went on TV and said that Taliban were just 'country boys' who did not like corruption.

And this entire spiel about the Taliban warning of an imminent attack has been pushed for hours today, well before the actual bombs went off.

Supposedly the gates to the airport are being welded shut, even as I write this but I have to stress, that is from sources I would not vouch for 100 per cent.

You seem to have it sussed Matov, I just don"t trust any officialdom in a crisis, even without it, thats why I was pondering the" get out" clause.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.37pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan How do you stop it? I believe there are two ways into the airport & you probably have 40,000/50,000 people pushing to get in, the entrances are narrow with an open sewage canal running parrallel to the walkway which afghans have been standing in upto their waist to ease the crush, its the perfect killzone. The perimeter is controlled by the taliban. All you have to do is fill a rucksack full of explosives and patiently wade your way towards the entrance and push a button, im fairly sure the Taliban waved through the bombers anyway. The problem is the american order to not leave the airfield & secure a wider perimeter. We have thousands of Taliban and isis surrounding the airport on all sides, they can literally send in as many suicide bombers as they like, its so crowded its impossible for anyone to ID a bomber let alone shoot one without killing everyone stood shoulder to shoulder with the bomber. Were so f***ed if isis and the Taliban wanted to overrun the airport im fairly sure every western soldier in that airport would be massacred in the space of a day. Yeah, no idea how to stop it, it"s just the government bloke banging on about an attack being iminent, seemed a bit staged, but it"s a strange theatre I suppose.
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Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.37pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Were so f***ed if isis and the Taliban wanted to overrun the airport im fairly sure every western soldier in that airport would be massacred in the space of a day.

Yeah, no idea how to stop it, it"s just the government bloke banging on about an attack being iminent, seemed a bit staged, but it"s a strange theatre I suppose.

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Stirlingsays 26 Aug 21 8.42pm
Originally posted by cryrst Would biden really assasinate his own troops. That is what is being said. There would be too many knowns for this to be a set up IMHO. Collateral damage and friendly fire is one thing. Killing your own troops to garner a full stop is jail time if not the death penalty. Maybe the isis line is false but to sanction this is something else. I'm not buying it, sorry. Not deliberately no. However, this whole situation is of his incompetence and making. The airport has been a sitting duck for sometime. I wouldn't want to be on that last plane out either.....fifty fifty it has a rocket accompany it out. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Aug 21 8.42pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Would biden really assasinate his own troops. That is what is being said. There would be too many knowns for this to be a set up IMHO. Collateral damage and friendly fire is one thing. Killing your own troops to garner a full stop is jail time if not the death penalty. Maybe the isis line is false but to sanction this is something else. I'm not buying it, sorry.

Not deliberately no.

However, this whole situation is of his incompetence and making. The airport has been a sitting duck for sometime.

I wouldn't want to be on that last plane out either.....fifty fifty it has a rocket accompany it out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm)

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.46pm
Germany, Denmark and Ireland all got there people out and have finished with Afghan, why did we leave it so late?
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Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.46pm

Germany, Denmark and Ireland all got there people out and have finished with Afghan, why did we leave it so late?

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 26 Aug 21 8.47pm
Originally posted by croydon proud Yeah, no idea how to stop it, it"s just the government bloke banging on about an attack being iminent, seemed a bit staged, but it"s a strange theatre I suppose. We will have forward observers and special forces dotted amongst the crowd/area as well as Taliban that are feeding us info so its no surprise we do get information. Ill be interested to see if they do play the poor taliban card in the coming days. The US should have kept more airports open and their surrounding areas secure. This reduces the desperate crowds and makes it easier to manage. This also gives western citizens more options of getting out the country rather than running the gauntlet that is taliban perimeter. Biden ignored his advisors and went with this strategy. The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 26 Aug 21 8.47pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Yeah, no idea how to stop it, it"s just the government bloke banging on about an attack being iminent, seemed a bit staged, but it"s a strange theatre I suppose.

We will have forward observers and special forces dotted amongst the crowd/area as well as Taliban that are feeding us info so its no surprise we do get information.
Ill be interested to see if they do play the poor taliban card in the coming days.

The US should have kept more airports open and their surrounding areas secure.
This reduces the desperate crowds and makes it easier to manage.
This also gives western citizens more options of getting out the country rather than running the gauntlet that is taliban perimeter.

Biden ignored his advisors and went with this strategy.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Stirlingsays 26 Aug 21 8.48pm
Originally posted by Orange1290 I agree, false flag coordinated and planned by the British & US governments. Both were saying it would happen around today's date. Now the focus is being taken away from their sheer incompetence while trying to gain sympathy and blaming Isis-K. Nothing surprising at all. They can't point The finger at Taliban as they are about to release huge previously frozen funds to them. Edited by Orange1290 (26 Aug 2021 7.03pm) That makes no logical sense at all. It doesn't take away from their incompetence at all. You just make nonsense up as you go along. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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26 Aug 21 8.48pm

Originally posted by Orange1290

I agree, false flag coordinated and planned by the British & US governments. Both were saying it would happen around today's date. Now the focus is being taken away from their sheer incompetence while trying to gain sympathy and blaming Isis-K. Nothing surprising at all. They can't point The finger at Taliban as they are about to release huge previously frozen funds to them.

Edited by Orange1290 (26 Aug 2021 7.03pm)

That makes no logical sense at all.

It doesn't take away from their incompetence at all. You just make nonsense up as you go along.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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cryrst The garden of England 26 Aug 21 8.55pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not deliberately no. However, this whole situation is of his incompetence and making. The airport has been a sitting duck for sometime. I wouldn't want to be on that last plane out either.....fifty fifty it has a rocket accompany it out. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm) If that happens and once a few hundred foreigners are held hostage the west will go back. If that happens the rule book has to go. No you shoot I shoot. The woke might be forced to change their thought process. Who would have thought that tearing down statues and cancelling people for nasty words etc could lead to WW3
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The garden of England 26 Aug 21 8.55pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not deliberately no.

However, this whole situation is of his incompetence and making. The airport has been a sitting duck for sometime.

I wouldn't want to be on that last plane out either.....fifty fifty it has a rocket accompany it out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm)

If that happens and once a few hundred foreigners are held hostage the west will go back. If that happens the rule book has to go. No you shoot I shoot. The woke might be forced to change their thought process. Who would have thought that tearing down statues and cancelling people for nasty words etc could lead to WW3

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.59pm
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan We will have forward observers and special forces dotted amongst the crowd/area as well as Taliban that are feeding us info so its no surprise we do get information. Ill be interested to see if they do play the poor taliban card in the coming days. The US should have kept more airports open and their surrounding areas secure. This reduces the desperate crowds and makes it easier to manage. This also gives western citizens more options of getting out the country rather than running the gauntlet that is taliban perimeter. Biden ignored his advisors and went with this strategy. Time will tell!
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Any european country i fancy! 26 Aug 21 8.59pm

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Biden ignored his advisors and went with this strategy.

Time will tell!

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Matov 26 Aug 21 9.10pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Not deliberately no. Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm) I disagree. Any politician who reaches the highest office is literally willing to kill to do so if it helps them. Biden has plenty of blood on his hands already. And let's not forget that the CIA helped flood the US with cocaine hence setting off the crack epidemic which caused the death of possibly millions, along with so much misery and mayhem. These people are literally capable of anything if it helps them achieve their own aims. A few US soldiers' lives are nothing to these people. All about the optics. And here we have US troops dying side by side with the Taleban, all involved in trying to help people. Making the Taleban now an 'honourable' enemy whilst helping demonise a new horrific one. Who by the way, were being funded and supplied by the US and the UK over in Syria. It stinks. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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26 Aug 21 9.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not deliberately no.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Aug 2021 8.44pm)

I disagree. Any politician who reaches the highest office is literally willing to kill to do so if it helps them. Biden has plenty of blood on his hands already.

And let's not forget that the CIA helped flood the US with cocaine hence setting off the crack epidemic which caused the death of possibly millions, along with so much misery and mayhem. These people are literally capable of anything if it helps them achieve their own aims.

A few US soldiers' lives are nothing to these people. All about the optics. And here we have US troops dying side by side with the Taleban, all involved in trying to help people. Making the Taleban now an 'honourable' enemy whilst helping demonise a new horrific one.

Who by the way, were being funded and supplied by the US and the UK over in Syria.

It stinks.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Matov 26 Aug 21 9.24pm
Just seen this briefing from the Pentagon... Top US commander Gen Kenneth McKenzie confirmed that 12 US military personnel were killed and 15 injured in the attacks in Kabul. Gen McKenzie said: US authorities believe the Islamic State group (IS-K) was behind the attacks and the threat of further incidents is "very real" These might take the form of vehicle-borne suicide bombings or rocket attacks The US military is co-ordinating and sharing information with the Taliban to prevent a repeat US forces believe the Taliban have already prevented some attacks from taking place Isis-K has shot at military aircraft "without effect", but the US military does not believe they possess man-portable air defence systems (Manpads) The Pentagon does not believe that additional troops are necessary to secure Hamid Karzai International Airport Drones and other aerial systems are being used to monitor events and dissuade further attacks... See what I mean now? Edited by Matov (26 Aug 2021 9.26pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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26 Aug 21 9.24pm

Just seen this briefing from the Pentagon...

Top US commander Gen Kenneth McKenzie confirmed that 12 US military personnel were killed and 15 injured in the attacks in Kabul.

Gen McKenzie said:

US authorities believe the Islamic State group (IS-K) was behind the attacks and the threat of further incidents is "very real"

These might take the form of vehicle-borne suicide bombings or rocket attacks

The US military is co-ordinating and sharing information with the Taliban to prevent a repeat

US forces believe the Taliban have already prevented some attacks from taking place

Isis-K has shot at military aircraft "without effect", but the US military does not believe they possess man-portable air defence systems (Manpads)

The Pentagon does not believe that additional troops are necessary to secure Hamid Karzai International Airport
Drones and other aerial systems are being used to monitor events and dissuade further attacks...

See what I mean now?

Edited by Matov (26 Aug 2021 9.26pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 26 Aug 21 10.03pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Anyone else notice how quiet the Biden fan club have been here? Would they have been so quiet if this had been Trump? At least CP has put his head up above the parapet Non Covid Cough You mean like the Sage of St Ives & the Insane from Maine? Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 26 Aug 21 10.03pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Anyone else notice how quiet the Biden fan club have been here? Would they have been so quiet if this had been Trump? At least CP has put his head up above the parapet

** Non Covid Cough** You mean like the Sage of St Ives & the Insane from Maine?

Pro USA & Israel

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