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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 8.54pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Doesn't matter , it is still an infringement on national sovereignty which is why I voted to leave. Until the EU gives up insisting on interfering I will not change my opinion on Brexit. Then you voted on a false premise, didn't you? As soon as we joined, we agreed to harmonise our laws in many areas. So have all the others. It's not interfering at all. You either accept the principle or you don't join. If you then think you can do better alone, then you must leave again, as we have. Harmonisation brings huge benefits in common standards and approaches. We used to be able to help shape them, but now we cannot, but will still have to follow them in many areas. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 8.54pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Doesn't matter , it is still an infringement on national sovereignty which is why I voted to leave. Until the EU gives up insisting on interfering I will not change my opinion on Brexit.

Then you voted on a false premise, didn't you?

As soon as we joined, we agreed to harmonise our laws in many areas. So have all the others. It's not interfering at all. You either accept the principle or you don't join. If you then think you can do better alone, then you must leave again, as we have.

Harmonisation brings huge benefits in common standards and approaches. We used to be able to help shape them, but now we cannot, but will still have to follow them in many areas.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.08pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are right. The world is changing, and rapidly heading for disaster. I did have the guts to vote for Brexit and allow our island nation the opportunity to make decisions that protect itself and not just service the needs of Germany and France. Natural resources are a global problem. Our membership of the EU would not help our ability to access them. In fact, our ability to trade in global markets may be an advantage. The only things that will matter in the future are, how we stop an endless stream of people arriving here, when the global population stops growing, when we are able to have renewable energy for all and how we feed and water everyone. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Aug 2021 2.19pm) The EU does not just service the needs of Germany and France! It is very much more than that. If you think we are in a stronger position to negotiate anything outside the EU, then I think you are living in a dream world. There is strength in numbers. Immigration, both legal and illegal, would be an issue whether inside or out. Dealing with it on our own though is very much harder. We will always be a preferred destination because of our language. We depend on imported food, much of it from the EU and that's not likely to change. It is though already getting more expensive. Renewable energy is also something that is needed, whether inside, or out. The question is where it is better managed. Once again, there is strength in size. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are right. The world is changing, and rapidly heading for disaster. I did have the guts to vote for Brexit and allow our island nation the opportunity to make decisions that protect itself and not just service the needs of Germany and France.
Natural resources are a global problem. Our membership of the EU would not help our ability to access them. In fact, our ability to trade in global markets may be an advantage.
The only things that will matter in the future are, how we stop an endless stream of people arriving here, when the global population stops growing, when we are able to have renewable energy for all and how we feed and water everyone.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Aug 2021 2.19pm)

The EU does not just service the needs of Germany and France! It is very much more than that. If you think we are in a stronger position to negotiate anything outside the EU, then I think you are living in a dream world. There is strength in numbers.

Immigration, both legal and illegal, would be an issue whether inside or out. Dealing with it on our own though is very much harder. We will always be a preferred destination because of our language.

We depend on imported food, much of it from the EU and that's not likely to change. It is though already getting more expensive.

Renewable energy is also something that is needed, whether inside, or out. The question is where it is better managed. Once again, there is strength in size.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.10pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle So the same countries would still be paying for the others. That will depend on negotiations yet to even start. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.10pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So the same countries would still be paying for the others.

That will depend on negotiations yet to even start.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.16pm
Originally posted by cryrst So remainers could be gullible too. Interesting. As for the type of campaign, according to many remainers the UK would be on its ass by now. Doesn't appear to be at all. Economy nearly back to pre covid, low unemployment, tons of job vacancies. Not exactly dump the lump time is it ? This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 Aug 21 9.16pm

Originally posted by cryrst

So remainers could be gullible too. Interesting. As for the type of campaign, according to many remainers the UK would be on its ass by now. Doesn't appear to be at all. Economy nearly back to pre covid, low unemployment, tons of job vacancies.
Not exactly dump the lump time is it ?

This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 9.49pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too. Hey, Wis, whats happened to maple?
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Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 9.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too.

Hey, Wis, whats happened to maple?

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 9.52pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too. No chicken in kfc, no milkshakes in maccy d, no chicken in nandos, no brcolli in sainsburys, whats not to like?
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Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 9.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too.

No chicken in kfc, no milkshakes in maccy d, no chicken in nandos, no brcolli in sainsburys, whats not to like?

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Spiderman Horsham 30 Aug 21 10.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle The EU does not just service the needs of Germany and France! It is very much more than that. If you think we are in a stronger position to negotiate anything outside the EU, then I think you are living in a dream world. There is strength in numbers. Immigration, both legal and illegal, would be an issue whether inside or out. Dealing with it on our own though is very much harder. We will always be a preferred destination because of our language. We depend on imported food, much of it from the EU and that's not likely to change. It is though already getting more expensive. Renewable energy is also something that is needed, whether inside, or out. The question is where it is better managed. Once again, there is strength in size. Why are we a preferred destination because of our language? Using that logic genuine refugees from Arab speaking countries would seek a safe haven in Arabic speaking countries/ Muslim in Muslim. Many coming over the Channel are from French speaking Africa but choose not to stay in France….fact. Gatwick getting many Spanish speaking Panamanians, who transit through Spain but choose to come to the UK. Whether we have been in or out of the EU,the French have done little to stop cross Channel illegal immigration…fact. We are still giving them £m’s to stop the flow, they have no will to do so….fact
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Horsham 30 Aug 21 10.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Immigration, both legal and illegal, would be an issue whether inside or out. Dealing with it on our own though is very much harder. We will always be a preferred destination because of our language.

We depend on imported food, much of it from the EU and that's not likely to change. It is though already getting more expensive.

Renewable energy is also something that is needed, whether inside, or out. The question is where it is better managed. Once again, there is strength in size.

Why are we a preferred destination because of our language? Using that logic genuine refugees from Arab speaking countries would seek a safe haven in Arabic speaking countries/ Muslim in Muslim. Many coming over the Channel are from French speaking Africa but choose not to stay in France….fact. Gatwick getting many Spanish speaking Panamanians, who transit through Spain but choose to come to the UK.
Whether we have been in or out of the EU,the French have done little to stop cross Channel illegal immigration…fact. We are still giving them £m’s to stop the flow, they have no will to do so….fact

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Spiderman Horsham 30 Aug 21 10.37pm
Originally posted by croydon proud No chicken in kfc, no milkshakes in maccy d, no chicken in nandos, no brcolli in sainsburys, whats not to like? If you are desperate for broccoli, let me know, our local supermarkets have plenty, together with all other fresh produce. Sorry EverybodyDannsNow, that is a fact. Unbelievable, eh?
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Horsham 30 Aug 21 10.37pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

No chicken in kfc, no milkshakes in maccy d, no chicken in nandos, no brcolli in sainsburys, whats not to like?

If you are desperate for broccoli, let me know, our local supermarkets have plenty, together with all other fresh produce. Sorry EverybodyDannsNow, that is a fact. Unbelievable, eh?

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 11.07pm
Originally posted by Spiderman If you are desperate for broccoli, let me know, our local supermarkets have plenty, together with all other fresh produce. Sorry EverybodyDannsNow, that is a fact. Unbelievable, eh? Thanks spider.
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Any european country i fancy! 30 Aug 21 11.07pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

If you are desperate for broccoli, let me know, our local supermarkets have plenty, together with all other fresh produce. Sorry EverybodyDannsNow, that is a fact. Unbelievable, eh?

Thanks spider.

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cryrst The garden of England 31 Aug 21 5.08am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too. So you can't reach a conclusion on positive stuff but have already concluded that brexit is bad for the UK. Just what are the lottery numbers wissie; pm me and we will both be minted I'm sure. Supply shortages are actually worldwide not just in the UK or EU so that's a bit of a curved ball there!
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The garden of England 31 Aug 21 5.08am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This is a strange time, lots of pent-up demand being released, so difficult to reach too many conclusions. There seems a lot of inflation, and supply shortages, in critical areas too.

So you can't reach a conclusion on positive stuff but have already concluded that brexit is bad for the UK. Just what are the lottery numbers wissie; pm me and we will both be minted I'm sure.
Supply shortages are actually worldwide not just in the UK or EU so that's a bit of a curved ball there!

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PalazioVecchio south pole 31 Aug 21 9.17am
Originally posted by Spiderman genuine refugees from Arab speaking countries would seek a safe haven in Arabic speaking countries/ Muslim in Muslim. Many coming over the Channel are from French speaking Africa but choose not to stay in France….fact. Gatwick getting many Spanish speaking Panamanians, who transit through Spain but choose to come to the UK. yes but those countries already have an over-supply of men. From both immigration & local polygamy. So those countries are already 'full' Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by Spiderman

genuine refugees from Arab speaking countries would seek a safe haven in Arabic speaking countries/ Muslim in Muslim. Many coming over the Channel are from French speaking Africa but choose not to stay in France….fact. Gatwick getting many Spanish speaking Panamanians, who transit through Spain but choose to come to the UK.

yes but those countries already have an over-supply of men. From both immigration & local polygamy. So those countries are already 'full'

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Teddy Eagle 31 Aug 21 9.24am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That will depend on negotiations yet to even start. Still hard to see how the countries who are currently not net contributors will be able to pay more.
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31 Aug 21 9.24am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That will depend on negotiations yet to even start.

Still hard to see how the countries who are currently not net contributors will be able to pay more.

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