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Stirlingsays 28 Nov 19 12.39am | |
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Originally posted by sickboy
Then again the knife may have been in his hand against another kid. I get the cynicism, and in many cases it's going to be accurate. You know I hold pretty strident views in this area and that I blame this whole sh1tshow on the idealism of egalitarians....but that's an holistic view and a historical resentment which will probably never leave me. However when it comes to dealing with an individual violent death of a 14 year old I still view this with regret. Let's not forget that I'm a former teacher and I worked with teenagers for many years. It's a future lost and possibility a redemption lost too. But like I say....this doesn't change my opinions on the madness of how we got here.
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sickboy Deal or Croydon 28 Nov 19 2.17am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I get the cynicism, and in many cases it's going to be accurate. You know I hold pretty strident views in this area and that I blame this whole sh1tshow on the idealism of egalitarians....but that's an holistic view and a historical resentment which will probably never leave me. However when it comes to dealing with an individual violent death of a 14 year old I still view this with regret. Let's not forget that I'm a former teacher and I worked with teenagers for many years. It's a future lost and possibility a redemption lost too. But like I say....this doesn't change my opinions on the madness of how we got here.
Totally respect your viewpoint.
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cryrst The garden of England 28 Nov 19 5.51am | |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I'm not sure that we need to conjure up an timeline where this kid is out stabbing people, to justify why this is a fate he somehow deserved. Of course if we view the kid as bad to the core we can easily not give a sh!t, but clearly that isn't likely the full picture and there are surely different considerations to factor in when someone makes bad decisions at 14 than say at 20 odd. Nobody is forced to take drugs and nobody is forced to sell them. Many people in society don't take drugs, those that choose to prop up a demand that wouldn't be there without them. There isn't one side that's pure evil, and one that's victim through and through. They are all people making hopelessly bad decisions that they perceive holds some kind of benefit for them, when in reality it doesn't. To expect someone at 14 to fully grasp what he's becoming part of when he's basically a trumped up delivery boy isn't realistic. It's probably a position he was effectively groomed for and it would be quite easy for a kid with bad guidance, and getting in with the wrong crowd to reason away what he's doing at that age. It's definitely a very bad path for all concerned, but it doesn't make him evil incarnate by any means or deserving of getting stabbed to death. Edited by dollardays (27 Nov 2019 11.56pm) I would hope his father would have reeled him in.
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dannyboy1978 28 Nov 19 6.20am | |
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This is all a non argument.
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Invalid user 2019 28 Nov 19 1.31pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I would hope his father would have reeled him in. Yes, even in tough environments, family play a key role and can quite literally be the difference between life and death.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 30 Nov 19 9.12am | |
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this, seems to be in Croydon [Tweet Link]
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 19 11.22am | |
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Oh my days!
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Nov 19 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Oh my days! Arrest all of them, beat them up and drop them off on Bromley Common somewhere.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 19 12.08pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Arrest all of them, beat them up and drop them off on Bromley Common somewhere. Isle of sheppey. Miles better (worse), and miles further away.
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Romford-Eagle Romford 30 Nov 19 12.24pm | |
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Why do black people have to be so confrontational, if told to go away by police, just go, and they wonder why racism is getting worse...
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Nov 19 12.30pm | |
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Stay off buses if you can.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 30 Nov 19 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Romford-Eagle
Why do black people have to be so confrontational, if told to go away by police, just go, and they wonder why racism is getting worse... And everything has to be to the tune of rap gang music. Frankly pathetic but also ridiculous that we put up with it.
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