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 cryrst  The garden of England 07 Dec 17 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I spoke to a Brummie cop at WBA
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chateauferret  07 Dec 17 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
The problem with the police getting caught lying is that now it might make it much harder for them to get a prosecution against people who were misbehaving on the night. Everybody loses. Well they're not going to get many prosecutions if they spend their time kettling real fans with tickets instead of arresting thugs without tickets, are they? Unless Clattenburg has become a magistrate, that is.
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| chateauferret 07 Dec 17 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Was on a jury earlier in the year with about 50 polis witnesses. We didn't think any of them were lying, but quite a lot of them were so thick they couldn't remember their own names.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 07 Dec 17 9.42pm |
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I really dont believe this conspiracy theory about ticketless fans either, it would be interesting to find out how many fans actually requested a refund on their match ticket.
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Mapletree  Croydon 07 Dec 17 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Ashamed to be Palace tonight' by Midlands Eagle I can't help but feel those reports were self serving by the Police and BHA. I would like to see the evidence and the numbers. Probably one of those tiny Swiss Army knives and a sovereign ring. This was a response to Willo apparently swallowing the nonsense served up from the Police by the media. So, like Michaela, I smelled a rat early on. Knives and knuckle-dusters my a*se. Why are people so very ready to wade in to our own supporters. Maybe some did get in without tickets by rushing the barriers or maybe they got so frustrated they took matters into their own hands. The whole thing is outrageous, the Police appeared to make sure train loads of people who arrived on time wouldn't make the start of the match. And now they have lost all credibility if they try to explain that away. They were excited by the idea of trouble and let that excitement cloud their judgement. And it happens every time at Brighton, Sussex is a rubbish force and the match day experience is always dreadful. Edited by Mapletree (07 Dec 2017 9.46pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 07 Dec 17 9.51pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Ashamed to be Palace tonight' by Midlands Eagle Having worked for two Forces, I do. You may not be aware of this but there was a case of some lying related to Liverpool supporters in the past. See this link Chief Inspector Simon Nelson said it was the worst example of disorder and violent behaviour he had experienced in 12 years as match commander and said away supporters "attempted to enter the ground with pyrotechnics, knives and knuckledusters, which were found following efforts to gain access through fire exit doors in the south stand". Whereas what we know from posters on this site is that the BHA 'fans' potentially were worse culprits as they were goading the Palace crowd. I read this as the items were found, not necessarily discovered on people during searches. I could be wrong. Like I said, it is in the interests of certain groups to point fingers at the away supporters. Especially as it is clear the Police and BHA made a right royal mess of controlling the situation and appear to have irritated all parties not just the guilty. Just to point out, it was not any old policeman that said knives and knuckledusters were found, as implied in the apology: “Subsequently, it has been established that no such items were physically recovered at the stadium or in the city. We accept that this information was incorrect and the tweet published earlier today by one of our officers was wrong. Sussex Police apologises to both clubs and their supporters.” Oh no, it was the Chief Inspector. Edited by Mapletree (07 Dec 2017 9.53pm)
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 Michaelawt85 Bexley 07 Dec 17 9.59pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
This was a response to Willo apparently swallowing the nonsense served up from the Police by the media. So, like Michaela, I smelled a rat early on. Knives and knuckle-dusters my a*se. Why are people so very ready to wade in to our own supporters. Maybe some did get in without tickets by rushing the barriers or maybe they got so frustrated they took matters into their own hands. The whole thing is outrageous, the Police appeared to make sure train loads of people who arrived on time wouldn't make the start of the match. And now they have lost all credibility if they try to explain that away. They were excited by the idea of trouble and let that excitement cloud their judgement. And it happens every time at Brighton, Sussex is a rubbish force and the match day experience is always dreadful. Edited by Mapletree (07 Dec 2017 9.46pm) Some of those who escorted us for the late train were from Norwich and been brought in the police this. Again another county where f all happens. My experience was the police round the ground and the ones waiting when we got off the train at Brighton were the ones with serious chips on their shoulders
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| Michaelawt85 Bexley 07 Dec 17 10.00pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
I really dont believe this conspiracy theory about ticketless fans either, it would be interesting to find out how many fans actually requested a refund on their match ticket. Still waiting for the money back for mine.
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| Dan1994 Wallington 07 Dec 17 10.33pm |
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On the posts above, my understanding is people turned up late, Brighton had shut the turnstiles, then fans with tickets rushed to get in and did, and then a Brighton steward opened the fire door and let some people in. On the general thread, it is staggering how much the police f***ed up, considering the Met must have had some input. They've got regular experience with teams such as Chelsea, Millwall, West Ham and Tottenham, as well as big days like Wembley, smaller derbies, and away teams from elsewhere and the continent, and yet they somehow cocked it up spectacularly.
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| Lucas Oliver Miles away 07 Dec 17 10.42pm |
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That graffiti job like the rest of this also smells of s***
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 07 Dec 17 10.49pm |
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Palace fans taking knives and knuckle dusters to the cup game can rest assured that they wont be confiscated as it'll look like a plant this time around.
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Park Road  08 Dec 17 8.02am |
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Sussex police admit to telling porkies (pun most definitely intended) about knives and knuckle dusters Edited by Park Road (08 Dec 2017 8.06am)
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