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jordan98x croydon 22 Sep 16 12.49pm | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
We haven't even submitted any plans yet, so the council cannot be held responsible for the timescale so far. actually we did the other week..we submitted it to croydon council..we shall know with in the next month or two you know what football clubs are like, they leave you hanging until everything is in place...
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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 22 Sep 16 8.57pm | |
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I imagine that we're hitting many obstacles that prevent us from revealing any positive details to the public.
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dreamwaverider London 22 Sep 16 10.04pm | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Thanks for that. Looks like its going to be a long and tough road to getting anything approved that everyone is going to be happy with.
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bexleydave Barnehurst 23 Sep 16 5.21am | |
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Originally posted by jordan98x
actually we did the other week..we submitted it to croydon council..we shall know with in the next month or two you know what football clubs are like, they leave you hanging until everything is in place...
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Lombardos barber 23 Sep 16 7.01am | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Nope. The Council were shown the plans last week in order that any issues likely to prevent planning permission could be addressed.
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Lyons550 Shirley 23 Sep 16 8.45am | |
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Originally posted by Lombardos barber
Nope. The Council were shown the plans last week in order that any issues likely to prevent planning permission could be addressed. Actually Bexley is correct, as things stand the latest 'submitted' planning application is for the siting of a generator. You are correct in picking up that SP went to the Council with his vision for the development of the Main Stand, but as I understand it this was an exercise to get a feel for what the local authority would accept BEFORE a planning submission was made. Its very much about 'bridge building' with Croydon and allowing them to have a say in the development PRIOR to submission should reduce any unforeseen issues, delays and associated costs in re-visiting plans etc.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Sep 16 9.10am | |
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Seeking pre-application planning advice from planning officers is very wise in that it can save a lot of time and money.The plans wouldn't be decided under 'Delegated powers' so it would go to a committee and there are of course timescales between submitting an application, consideration by local councillors etc etc before it actually gets to the committee stage. A rejection at this point and you start again, submitting another application, paying for the application and the whole cycle starts again. Time and money !
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joebieseagles Beckenham 23 Sep 16 9.16am | |
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As someone who works in Town Planning I will just say for those that are not aware - for certain projects the developer may well submit what is called a Pre-Application - these are a basic planning application with the drawings and a few bits and pieces of information and these can get quite costly but in the long run the process will allow for a smoother planning application. These are also used to find out what the Council will allow, where there may be problems and what S106/CIL might be needed. Also these are always confidential so will not appear on the Council website. So I would imagine what is happening is a few drawn out meetings between the architects and the more senior planning officers (possibly even the Head of Planning) to make sure that as this will be an extremely hot topic application that everything is golden between the Council and the Club. The only thing they can not account for is the residents surrounding the ground - at my local authority when a planning application is being decided it only takes 3 objections to make it go to committee. Pre Apps can take days to months depending on the application - I would imagine this would be around a month. The Club may also be going into a Planning Performance Agreement which is a contract between the Council and the Club that means the Council have to deal with the application in certain timescales as well as other bits and pieces. Sorry for the long message but just wanted to shed a bit of light into the world of planning.... also not all Planning Officers are bad - just like the Council they get a bad rep because they are an easy target!
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Lyons550 Shirley 23 Sep 16 11.46am | |
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.. Edited by Lyons550 (23 Sep 2016 11.49am)
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est1905 23 Sep 16 5.07pm | |
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Originally posted by joebieseagles
As someone who works in Town Planning I will just say for those that are not aware - for certain projects the developer may well submit what is called a Pre-Application - these are a basic planning application with the drawings and a few bits and pieces of information and these can get quite costly but in the long run the process will allow for a smoother planning application. These are also used to find out what the Council will allow, where there may be problems and what S106/CIL might be needed. Also these are always confidential so will not appear on the Council website. So I would imagine what is happening is a few drawn out meetings between the architects and the more senior planning officers (possibly even the Head of Planning) to make sure that as this will be an extremely hot topic application that everything is golden between the Council and the Club. The only thing they can not account for is the residents surrounding the ground - at my local authority when a planning application is being decided it only takes 3 objections to make it go to committee. Pre Apps can take days to months depending on the application - I would imagine this would be around a month. The Club may also be going into a Planning Performance Agreement which is a contract between the Council and the Club that means the Council have to deal with the application in certain timescales as well as other bits and pieces. Sorry for the long message but just wanted to shed a bit of light into the world of planning.... also not all Planning Officers are bad - just like the Council they get a bad rep because they are an easy target! Its also fair to state that not all objections are listened to if the planning dept are satisfied that particular objection is unfounded. Such as 'it'll block out my light'. If tests have been carried out to prove that the adjacent properties will remain with sufficient daylight during a reasonable timescale of the 12 hour day that is an objection that will be ignored.
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Inapickle South West 24 Sep 16 2.27am | |
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Originally posted by est1905
Its also fair to state that not all objections are listened to if the planning dept are satisfied that particular objection is unfounded. Such as 'it'll block out my light'. If tests have been carried out to prove that the adjacent properties will remain with sufficient daylight during a reasonable timescale of the 12 hour day that is an objection that will be ignored. ..yep, one's a Charlton fan and one's a Millwall fan and the other could well be from Sussex, we would be well ferked.
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 27 Sep 16 5.42am | |
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I wonder if Palace fan Chuka Umunna MP could help push things through with the council...
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