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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 23 8.27am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Typical example of BBC bias, this is the headline:

"Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague"

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The headline is an exaggeration something the Mail / Guardian / Mirror and The Sun do all the time, however I am told the BBC doesn't do that.

The study is based on 145 corpse, it is not clear if all of these 145 were black women or just a percentage but as the BBC uses the word individuals I suspect the later.

Eventually the BBC does mention that more than 50% of Londoners died an horrific death toll (35k).

So how many of those 35k were black?

Given that more than 50% of all people died is it really that significant if the mortality rate for black women was higher?

How many black women were there in London? No they don't tell us that.

The BBC doesn't lie (very often) but they do skew the facts.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Nov 23 8.51am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I am sorry - it was Vallance.
You can trust who you like but BJ was trying to run a Country in crisis while Vallance had one job and neither he nor a lot of other people did it well.
This enquiry is more about smearing the Government than actually making sure that we know what to do next time and the media love it.
I just turned on BBC and ITV and they are stumbling over their words, so keen are they to carry on the campaign.
It is unacceptable and takes away from just as serious stuff.
As it happens, Boris was right - we should not have locked down but sadly he listened to the numpties/Scientists - all with their own agendas - and caused even more problems.
He should have trusted his gut and the British people.
Sorry - getting off topic!

As the enquiry was set up by the government it’s hardly likely its purpose is to smear itself, is it?

Johnson repeatedly claimed they were “following the science” when a lot of the time they neither understood it or even considered it.

Reporting the chaos is an imperative if we are to perform better the next time. Ensuring that the politicians know their actions, and inaction, will later be subject to public scrutiny should produce a more objective outcome.

How you can claim “Boris was right” beats me when everything that’s being revealed demonstrates how wrong he was in delaying the necessary actions. If we had gone down harder and earlier we could have avoided some of the problems and released earlier.

The idea that just because lockdowns had consequences they were wrong is stupidity on steriods. We knew they would. Every choice we faced had consequences, all bad. The decision to be made was which was least bad. Letting people die because they were old and had already had a life is not something any government ought to contemplate, but ours did, until the political consequences hit them. We don’t know what the full consequences would have been if we had taken another route because we didn’t. However there is strong scientific belief that it would have been much worse, quite possibly not only a greater loss of life but also greater economic consequences. This idea that everything would be ok if only they had done what I said they should have done is the reasoning of the playground.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 23 9.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As the enquiry was set up by the government it’s hardly likely its purpose is to smear itself, is it?

Johnson repeatedly claimed they were “following the science” when a lot of the time they neither understood it or even considered it.

Reporting the chaos is an imperative if we are to perform better the next time. Ensuring that the politicians know their actions, and inaction, will later be subject to public scrutiny should produce a more objective outcome.

How you can claim “Boris was right” beats me when everything that’s being revealed demonstrates how wrong he was in delaying the necessary actions. If we had gone down harder and earlier we could have avoided some of the problems and released earlier.

The idea that just because lockdowns had consequences they were wrong is stupidity on steriods. We knew they would. Every choice we faced had consequences, all bad. The decision to be made was which was least bad. Letting people die because they were old and had already had a life is not something any government ought to contemplate, but ours did, until the political consequences hit them. We don’t know what the full consequences would have been if we had taken another route because we didn’t. However there is strong scientific belief that it would have been much worse, quite possibly not only a greater loss of life but also greater economic consequences. This idea that everything would be ok if only they had done what I said they should have done is the reasoning of the playground.

Of course not, I mean it's not very likely that the civil service and the so called experts are looking to deflect blame away from their woeful performance. BJ is out of office so is a ready made fall guy.

We had a saying in our office when someone left that they were good for 6 months worth of blame.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Nov 2023 9.08am)

 


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The Dolphin Flag 21 Nov 23 10.01am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Further responses should I guess go under Covid so I will move to that topic

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 21 Nov 23 10.06am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Typical example of BBC bias, this is the headline:

"Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague"

[Link]

The headline is an exaggeration something the Mail / Guardian / Mirror and The Sun do all the time, however I am told the BBC doesn't do that.

The study is based on 145 corpse, it is not clear if all of these 145 were black women or just a percentage but as the BBC uses the word individuals I suspect the later.

Eventually the BBC does mention that more than 50% of Londoners died an horrific death toll (35k).

So how many of those 35k were black?

Given that more than 50% of all people died is it really that significant if the mortality rate for black women was higher?

How many black women were there in London? No they don't tell us that.

The BBC doesn't lie (very often) but they do skew the facts.

Sorry, didn't see this Badger. I've posted it on another topic.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 21 Nov 23 10.11am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Typical example of BBC bias, this is the headline:

"Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague"

[Link]

The headline is an exaggeration something the Mail / Guardian / Mirror and The Sun do all the time, however I am told the BBC doesn't do that.

The study is based on 145 corpse, it is not clear if all of these 145 were black women or just a percentage but as the BBC uses the word individuals I suspect the later.

Eventually the BBC does mention that more than 50% of Londoners died an horrific death toll (35k).

So how many of those 35k were black?

Given that more than 50% of all people died is it really that significant if the mortality rate for black women was higher?

How many black women were there in London? No they don't tell us that.

The BBC doesn't lie (very often) but they do skew the facts.

They will not let facts get in the way of a headline!
It is now nearly 700 years ago but the museum and the BBC want to make that about racism.
The bloody thing killed 50% of all people in London.
You just could not make this crap up!

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Nov 23 2.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The BBC website is a hotbed of progressives constantly pushing an ideological message....Aside from not having an official editorial it's little different to the Guardian.

It's a disgrace and has been for years that this is paid for by the general public.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Nov 2023 2.04pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Nov 23 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend


If there was the slightest evidence of that being true do you not think the enquiry and its lawyers would point it out?

Why would the scientists want to do anything other than try to improve the next response? They aren’t politicians worried about reelection. Their entire ethos is the pursuit of knowledge

This isn’t a dog eat dog corporate world. It’s an enquiry chaired by one of our most senior Judges. BS gets left outside because it wouldn’t survive long inside.

Edited by becky (21 Nov 2023 4.56pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Nov 23 4.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The BBC is one of Britain’s greatest achievements. Envied across the world as a bastion against state interference in, and control over, information, it speaks the truth. as it sees it at the time.

That those with strong political ideologies find that uncomfortable is evidence of its continuing success and relevance.

The right believes it supports the left. The left believes it supports the right.

I am sure it does neither.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 21 Nov 23 9.42pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Of course the BBC is biased, you only have to look at its output to see that. The fact that the only people on here supporting it are the crypto-communists speaks volumes.

 

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BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 21 Nov 23 9.57pm

The BBC is not biased. It’s just isn’t right wing and so all you right whingers see it as an affront to your right wing beliefs and way of thinking, like you do most things in this world. You all won’t be happy until you tear this country to the ground and make everyone who lives in it as miserable as you all are. Very selfish and very sad.

 

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The BBC is biased. It’s just left wing and so all you left whingers see it as a prop to your left wing beliefs and way of 'thinking', like you do most things in this world. You all won’t be happy until you tear this country to the ground and make everyone who lives in it as miserable as you all are. Very selfish and very sad.

 

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