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JRW2 Dulwich 01 Nov 23 5.03pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I would trust John Simpson to tell me the truth as he sees it every day. I wouldn’t trust Dominic Cummings to even recognise the truth if it hit him in the face. He truly has a history built on lies. I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.
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Dulwich 01 Nov 23 5.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I would trust John Simpson to tell me the truth as he sees it every day.

I wouldn’t trust Dominic Cummings to even recognise the truth if it hit him in the face. He truly has a history built on lies.

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

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steeleye20 Croydon 01 Nov 23 6.02pm
'BBC News Arabic launches emergency radio service for Gaza'. Simply the best.
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Croydon 01 Nov 23 6.02pm

'BBC News Arabic launches emergency radio service for Gaza'.

Simply the best.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 01 Nov 23 8.54pm
Originally posted by JRW2 I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected. Those who saw him in Durham might convince you. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 01 Nov 23 8.54pm

Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

Those who saw him in Durham might convince you.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 01 Nov 23 10.52pm
Originally posted by JRW2 I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected. That's because you want to believe him. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Stoke sub normal 01 Nov 23 10.52pm

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Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

That's because you want to believe him.

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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Spiderman Horsham 02 Nov 23 7.20am
Originally posted by JRW2 I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected. Did you think he was lying about his trip to Northumbria? Was he not hated by the left then? Seems to me, they did not believe him then but many are now hanging on his every word
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Horsham 02 Nov 23 7.20am

Originally posted by JRW2

I regard Cummings as one of the most despicable people ever to disgrace the political scene, but I'm not sure he's a liar. Stand to be corrected.

Did you think he was lying about his trip to Northumbria? Was he not hated by the left then? Seems to me, they did not believe him then but many are now hanging on his every word

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JRW2 Dulwich 02 Nov 23 8.58am
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 That's because you want to believe him. ??
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Dulwich 02 Nov 23 8.58am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

That's because you want to believe him.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 04 Nov 23 6.32am
I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered. As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day. It is no surprise that we had poor leadership during Covid, if you look at the Shadow Cabinet at the time would be difficult to make a winning argument the outcome would have been any better had they been in government Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 04 Nov 23 6.32am

I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered.

As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day.

It is no surprise that we had poor leadership during Covid, if you look at the Shadow Cabinet at the time would be difficult to make a winning argument the outcome would have been any better had they been in government

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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The Dolphin 20 Nov 23 6.33pm
A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline. They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame. However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man. What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb.
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20 Nov 23 6.33pm

A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline.
They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame.
However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man.
What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb.

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Stirlingsays 20 Nov 23 7.54pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline. They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame. However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man. What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb. I'd say that's a pretty accurate summary. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Nov 23 7.54pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I'd say that's a pretty accurate summary.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 20 Nov 23 7.58pm
Originally posted by HKOwen I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered. As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day. It is no surprise that we had poor leadership during Covid, if you look at the Shadow Cabinet at the time would be difficult to make a winning argument the outcome would have been any better had they been in government I think Johnson bottled it on Covid under the sheer weight of people who are now trying to shift blame onto him. I'm hardly Johnson's biggest fan over Covid as was apparent at the time. However, at least Johnson put his foot down and ensured that the lockdowns stopped.....You only had Christmas free of lockdown because of his insistence. Labour and all the scared maskers would have locked you down until the summer....Well, some of them even beyond that. Anyone who tells you that Labour are anything other than another bunch of useless t***s is trying to sell you something. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2023 7.59pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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20 Nov 23 7.58pm

Originally posted by HKOwen

I can't remember, did he lie about being in Durham or make up a silly excuse once he was discovered.

As with many in politics, the greatest critics become admirers when it suits the narrative of the day.

I think Johnson bottled it on Covid under the sheer weight of people who are now trying to shift blame onto him.

I'm hardly Johnson's biggest fan over Covid as was apparent at the time.

However, at least Johnson put his foot down and ensured that the lockdowns stopped.....You only had Christmas free of lockdown because of his insistence.

Labour and all the scared maskers would have locked you down until the summer....Well, some of them even beyond that.

Anyone who tells you that Labour are anything other than another bunch of useless t***s is trying to sell you something.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Nov 2023 7.59pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 8.56pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin A whole day of the covid enquiry with Whittey and his derogatory comments about Boris are the the main BBC headline. They cannot help themselves - mind you, nor can anyone giving evidence who wants to deflect blame. However, we can have none of that can we - heap the whole thing on one man. What a bunch of spineless idiots ably abetted by Auntie Beeb. It was Sir Patrick Vallance giving evidence today. His testimony is based on diaries and notes made at the time. He is not a politician. He is a scientist whose life is devoted to finding the truth. Assisting the enquiry to do that is not going to see him lying. I would trust Patrick Vallance before 100 Boris Johnson’s. His evidence confirms what others have said, and what we witnessed ourselves. Johnson failed to act on scientific advice, had a poor understanding of what the situation and risks were and, like some posters here still do, thought he knew better. He allowed his political concerns to interfere with what was his clear public duty as determined by the science. The BBC reporting it is what is expected of them. What what you want them to do? White wash Johnson? Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Nov 2023 9.05pm) For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 23 8.56pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

It was Sir Patrick Vallance giving evidence today.

His testimony is based on diaries and notes made at the time. He is not a politician. He is a scientist whose life is devoted to finding the truth. Assisting the enquiry to do that is not going to see him lying.

I would trust Patrick Vallance before 100 Boris Johnson’s. His evidence confirms what others have said, and what we witnessed ourselves.

Johnson failed to act on scientific advice, had a poor understanding of what the situation and risks were and, like some posters here still do, thought he knew better. He allowed his political concerns to interfere with what was his clear public duty as determined by the science.

The BBC reporting it is what is expected of them. What what you want them to do? White wash Johnson?

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Nov 2023 9.05pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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The Dolphin 21 Nov 23 6.21am
I am sorry - it was Vallance. You can trust who you like but BJ was trying to run a Country in crisis while Vallance had one job and neither he nor a lot of other people did it well. This enquiry is more about smearing the Government than actually making sure that we know what to do next time and the media love it. I just turned on BBC and ITV and they are stumbling over their words, so keen are they to carry on the campaign. It is unacceptable and takes away from just as serious stuff. As it happens, Boris was right - we should not have locked down but sadly he listened to the numpties/Scientists - all with their own agendas - and caused even more problems. He should have trusted his gut and the British people. Sorry - getting off topic!
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21 Nov 23 6.21am

I am sorry - it was Vallance.
You can trust who you like but BJ was trying to run a Country in crisis while Vallance had one job and neither he nor a lot of other people did it well.
This enquiry is more about smearing the Government than actually making sure that we know what to do next time and the media love it.
I just turned on BBC and ITV and they are stumbling over their words, so keen are they to carry on the campaign.
It is unacceptable and takes away from just as serious stuff.
As it happens, Boris was right - we should not have locked down but sadly he listened to the numpties/Scientists - all with their own agendas - and caused even more problems.
He should have trusted his gut and the British people.
Sorry - getting off topic!

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