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 Mapletree  Croydon 06 Jul 16 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Your last para.... compare that with those EU migrants over here that your sort want to be given guarantees that they can stay here after we leave EU. Why are they any more deserving to stay in our country than those retirees with DB schemes are allowed to keep their promised pensions after a lifetime of hard work? Seems to me that for some bizarre reason you want to penalise those that have been the backbone of our society for 50+ years whereas you want to reward some johnny come lately foreigners that have given us nothing? Odd. I have never commented on EU immigration. It is a fact of life at the moment within the single market and I don't see a future for the UK without a single market but I would not state an opinion on whether or not that is a good thing.
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| Mapletree Croydon 06 Jul 16 12.51pm |
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Originally posted by masonic_palace
Er.... mine hasn't, and I'm in the default (100% equity) - so not sure where you're getting that argument from. Very pleased to hear that, mine has been falling like a stone since the referendum was announced. You also need to consider how much will it cost you to buy an annuity, you will buy less for your money now.
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| blackpalacefan 06 Jul 16 2.20pm |
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At what point if we've not left yet will people start to wonder if its ever going to happen? When does Theresa May's 'no rush' become 'never'? Edited by blackpalacefan (06 Jul 2016 2.24pm)
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 06 Jul 16 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Very pleased to hear that, mine has been falling like a stone since the referendum was announced. You also need to consider how much will it cost you to buy an annuity, you will buy less for your money now. Is that the reason you are having a go at all of us that voted for brexit?? When we had the crash back a few years my private pension pot halved and I have now a reduced pension due to it but you do not hear me going on and on about in fact I took the hit then and I accept it still. There is nothing we can do about falling markets it happens all the time whether we have a brexit or something else that reduces the value of money. I suggest you just accept yourself that some have to be losers in all things and you were on the losing side of the vote with your daughter and I suggest you make contingency plans as we all have in our lives. The OLD ONES that is who did go out and vote two weeks ago.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 06 Jul 16 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Doesn't sound good for the future of the EU when Carl Juncker refers to Cameroon, Boris and Sir Nigel as "Rats leaving a sinking ship!"
Who knew? You realise the analogy is referring to the UK as the sinking ship, not the EU?
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I thought the EU had a few more years before it sunk without trace under the weight of it's own bureaucracy and corruption. Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 Jul 16 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
You realise the analogy is referring to the UK as the sinking ship, not the EU? The irony of it is that, despite that being what Juncker meant, it's certainly not the UK that's going to sink.
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| Stuk Top half 06 Jul 16 2.55pm |
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Doesn't he realise that no one gives a f*** what he thinks or says? We didn't pre-vote and we certainly don't now. Edited by Stuk (06 Jul 2016 2.55pm)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jul 16 4.47pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
Juncker didn't appear to use the rats analogy that I can see. That was Guy Verhofstadt. But Juncker was unquestionably referring to the UK when he said "the Brexit heroes of yesterday are now the sad Brexit heroes of today" and "Patriots don’t resign when things get difficult, they stay." He has a point there.
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| Stuk Top half 06 Jul 16 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
He has a point there. The only one to actually resign was Dave, and he was remain.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Jul 16 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
The irony of it is that, despite that being what Juncker meant, it's certainly not the UK that's going to sink. I think that's more a question of a race to the bottom, given how the vote panned out in NI and Scotland, both countries are kind of now well positioned for the independence movements to take advantage of that. It's very important how the UK responds in terms of Freedom of Movement. Of course the EU looks rocky as f**k, going forwards over the next couple of years, I think its conceivable the idea of the EU being rolled back to the EEA and EFTA, and a ditching of the body politic of the European Parliament and Commission. I like your certainty, but I think part of the great aspect of decisions like this, is that there can be no real certainities. We're through the mirror as they say, and its quite conceivable that within 5-10 years neither the UK (as it is now) and the EU will exist.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jul 16 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Your last para.... compare that with those EU migrants over here that your sort want to be given guarantees that they can stay here after we leave EU. Why are they any more deserving to stay in our country than those retirees with DB schemes are allowed to keep their promised pensions after a lifetime of hard work? Seems to me that for some bizarre reason you want to penalise those that have been the backbone of our society for 50+ years whereas you want to reward some johnny come lately foreigners that have given us nothing? Odd. I certainly don't want to see us deny current EU citizens residing in the UK. I voted leave, not the BNP. The image that gives of Britain or England and would be communicated by the media here and abroad is going to very regretful IMO and would give racists more reason to behave abhorrently in te UK and elsewhere. It's annoying to keep hearing and seeing EU citizens worried on media programmes that they'll have to leave but I also understand Theresa May sees the advantage of promising nothing.
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| blackpalacefan 06 Jul 16 7.55pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I could say the same when you post one liners. I'm stereotyping them because enough of them are showing themselves to be an embarrassment and forgetting some of the core values of our society, and all because they can do it from a keyboard. Before last week I felt sorry for all the young and how much harder it is to be able to live away from home. Not so much now but they can still redeem themselves, not that I think anything much when seeing young people out and about, apart from buying a belt and skinny jeans look shyte, or if they're anti social in daylight and in sight of people. Swanning around on their sony walkmans and then straight back home playing their atari 2600. And those shell suits! When will they learn! They're all the same them younguns
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