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A ringing endorsement for Corbyn. I'm sure Comrade Gusset will be proud to be standing shoulder to shoulder with these chaps.

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Edited by Cucking Funt (07 Jun 2017 11.37pm)

In a word, no.

Just remember, his raise in corporation tax is actually very modest. 26% will still be lower than nearly every G20 country so the idea of businesses just upping and leaving is quite frankly silly in my opinion. He's also stated that 26% will be the top rate for the biggest businesses, so I'd assume the middle range corporations will be paying closer to 23-24%. I own a business and (perhaps some would say naively) am not worried in the slightest, although I do accept on a personal level I'd be better off from a selfish point of view under the Tories. My old boss who's business is worth a couple of million is a big Corbyn supporter too. The ironic argument of many on the far right is that it will actually be the combination of both brexit and Corporation Tax increases that will equate to businesses leaving, which is a bit odd seeing as most of them voted brexit so I don't really see how any of the economic uncertainty it may cause can be pinned on Corbyn. My genuine opinion is that the scale of change Corbyn is proposing and the amount he seems to promise may be unrealistic but it's a whole lot better than the Tories who appear to be pledging next to nothing, overall there are many positive pledges he's made and he really is the only prospect for a change that this country desperately needs. I think it's widely acknowledged now that the NHS can't cope and that along with policing cuts during a time like this are by far the main factors for me. I'm also a firm believer in the idea of investing to grow, and despite common propaganda throughout this campaign, it's in corporations interests that we all prosper to a certain extent. I respect everyone's vote and I know many Tories, I think some of the principals they hold are amicable such as the idea of less control from the state etc. But if you actually ask them what the reason is that Corbyn is so horrific in general what I've found is they don't have too much to say that actually holds much weight. It's usually a combination of sound bites about the economy, quotes of him loving the IRA and then talking about the incompetence of his shadow cabinet, they seem to recycle these arguments whilst almost blindly ignoring the fact that the Tories seem as out of their depth as anyone else. I've genuinely wanted to understand what is so damaging about Corbyns economic plans in comparison to another 5 years of Tory austerity but the reality is im yet to hear one undeniable theory to go against the facts I've stated about the actual proposed rate of corporation tax in the beginning of the post. If Corbyn can deliver on even half of his manifesto which, despite what those who smear him say, I believe he can, there will be some much needed and very positive changes in this country.

Edit - BTW, Spain has a basic rate corporation tax of 35% so not sure why companies would be relocating to there.

Edited by Mstrobez (08 Jun 2017 5.28am)

We're the Arthur over ere!

Before you vote today I urge you to read this. It's short and am easy read.

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This is from a Nobel laureate who is an expert in both micro economics and economics of globalisation and has done a lot of work in investigating the economics of inequality.

Yeah I think the hysteria seen in every general election is quite embarrassing. I am of the opinion we have 2 genuinely very different prospects for the first time in a while though. Whilst I don't see May as the leader of the "evil Tory crooks", I do think she's shown real indifference and a lack of urgency with regards to issues in the country, more than anything I think it's just a case of ignorance. She also has appeared to be completely disinterested with this whole campaign and I think the electorate wanting answers beyond brexit negotiations has caught her massively off guard, exposing many frailties in the process. My reasoning behind voting for Corbyn is the implementation of some form of change as I fear at the moment we are abandoning many of our core values for the sake of not very much. The effect of 7 years austerity on communities and public services isn't to be understated and I fear for the prospects of many if this continues for another 5 years. RE him appearing charismatic, Farage is a very charismatic guy too hence his ability to gain a following so as you said I'm not sure if that really means anything, what's consistently impressed me about Corbyn is that he comes across as genuine above anything else and has stood by his policies regardless of the onslaught he's received by the mainstream press and also the tories. I think anyone given the media coverage he's received over the past 7 or so weeks would've been dead and buried now and I think the staunchest Tory would find it hard to argue he hasn't shown resilience. Regardless, I cannot see the possibility of even a hung parliament which is a shame, I think had this election been in 2020 the ending of the story may well have been very different!

We're the Arthur over ere!