I'd imagine it would involve Abkhazia & Ossetia.

[Tweet Link]

The mountains are calling & I must go.

That the Russian Foreign Ministry says anything doesn't make it so! The US is not, and won't become, a direct party to the conflict. They are doing what they have done many times in the past, and what we are also doing now, which is to supply a friendly country with the means to defend itself.

There has been a risk of escalation from the moment Putin ordered the invasion. That the Russians are upping the rhetoric only serves to indicate how effective the support has been.

When the alternative is to cave in to a bully and seek to appease them, then you must trust that those making the calculations have weighed up the risks and know what they are doing.

It would not surprise me if channels were now being used to find a way for Putin to claim a victory and call an end to it. The time seems right. Xi's meeting with Putin today looks as though it could be critical.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Quite frankly it doesn't matter what the likes of you think. Just like when you waffled on about Nato being entirely defensive and my answer was that all that mattered was missile response times your rhetoric means nothing to practical outcomes.

If Russia say the supply of longer range missiles means war with the US...with whatever consequences that means then that's what they said.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Sep 2022 11.10pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Have the US even considered that option? I would have thought it would be madness to send any missiles over the border. If you want to transform a poorly motivated army just attack Mother Russia so they are defending their homeland.

BTW the mass grave just discovered is the main headline in the news. On this I am with those shouting partiality. The report implicitly links this with Katyn and the like. However it is war. Civilians and soldiers will die. As occupying authority they needed to do something with the bodies; and there seemed no attempt to hide the ground with hundreds of crosses.

Obviously those people would not have died but for the war so there is culpability. However it was not Katyn.

Russia have claimed that when the Ukrainians re-entered the cities and villages they left during this offensive that pro Russians have been killed and reprisals have taken place.

You wouldn't have had this reported in our media of course.

Anything negative to do with the Ukrainians has long since disappeared from our media. Early on I read justifications for it so I'm pretty cynical about all of it.

I condemn anyone who kills civilians on any side killed in this utterly insane deliberately prolonged economically disastrous war. No one wins this, all of us lose, aside from the weapons manufacturers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Sep 2022 3.51pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)