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Hansy 07 Jun 17 5.40pm
Theresa May has visited the greater range of seats during the campaign, with the Prime Minister travelling to 68 different constituencies. Labour's Jeremy Corbyn campaigned in 63 seats, while Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron took his campaign to 37 different constituencies, an analysis by the Press Association has found. Mrs May made 63% of her campaign visits to Labour seats, taking in 23 Labour-held marginals. Mr Corbyn focused more on Labour strongholds than any other type of seat, spending 37% of his visits addressing the party faithful, compared with only 5% in Labour marginals. This is why Corbyn will lose.
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07 Jun 17 5.40pm

Theresa May has visited the greater range of seats during the campaign, with the Prime Minister travelling to 68 different constituencies.

Labour's Jeremy Corbyn campaigned in 63 seats, while Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron took his campaign to 37 different constituencies, an analysis by the Press Association has found.

Mrs May made 63% of her campaign visits to Labour seats, taking in 23 Labour-held marginals.

Mr Corbyn focused more on Labour strongholds than any other type of seat, spending 37% of his visits addressing the party faithful, compared with only 5% in Labour marginals.

This is why Corbyn will lose.

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serial thriller The Promised Land 07 Jun 17 5.51pm
Originally posted by Hansy Theresa May has visited the greater range of seats during the campaign, with the Prime Minister travelling to 68 different constituencies. Labour's Jeremy Corbyn campaigned in 63 seats, while Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron took his campaign to 37 different constituencies, an analysis by the Press Association has found. Mrs May made 63% of her campaign visits to Labour seats, taking in 23 Labour-held marginals. Mr Corbyn focused more on Labour strongholds than any other type of seat, spending 37% of his visits addressing the party faithful, compared with only 5% in Labour marginals. This is why Corbyn will lose. But she hasn't actually visited these places! Shes spoken to tory members and shut out the general public. How is that a strategy to win votes? Like saying 'i've been to paris' but you never left the airport... If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Originally posted by Hansy

Theresa May has visited the greater range of seats during the campaign, with the Prime Minister travelling to 68 different constituencies.

Labour's Jeremy Corbyn campaigned in 63 seats, while Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron took his campaign to 37 different constituencies, an analysis by the Press Association has found.

Mrs May made 63% of her campaign visits to Labour seats, taking in 23 Labour-held marginals.

Mr Corbyn focused more on Labour strongholds than any other type of seat, spending 37% of his visits addressing the party faithful, compared with only 5% in Labour marginals.

This is why Corbyn will lose.

But she hasn't actually visited these places! Shes spoken to tory members and shut out the general public. How is that a strategy to win votes?

Like saying 'i've been to paris' but you never left the airport...

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Hansy 07 Jun 17 5.56pm
Originally posted by serial thriller But she hasn't actually visited these places! Shes spoken to tory members and shut out the general public. How is that a strategy to win votes? Like saying 'i've been to paris' but you never left the airport... She has visited the places. I've seen videos of her door knocking in alot of different areas. Just because she's not hosting rallies, and doing small Q and A sessions in warehouses doesn't mean that's all she is doing. Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave.
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07 Jun 17 5.56pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

But she hasn't actually visited these places! Shes spoken to tory members and shut out the general public. How is that a strategy to win votes?

Like saying 'i've been to paris' but you never left the airport...

She has visited the places. I've seen videos of her door knocking in alot of different areas. Just because she's not hosting rallies, and doing small Q and A sessions in warehouses doesn't mean that's all she is doing.

Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 07 Jun 17 6.02pm
Originally posted by Hansy And Blair involved us in an illegal war. Come on, these are politicians, they all lie. Is Blair standing for PM in this election? Is not only that she's a liar but she's also a acted unlawfully on multiple occasions Edited by CambridgeEagle (07 Jun 2017 6.09pm)
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Originally posted by Hansy

And Blair involved us in an illegal war. Come on, these are politicians, they all lie.

Is Blair standing for PM in this election? Is not only that she's a liar but she's also a acted unlawfully on multiple occasions

Edited by CambridgeEagle (07 Jun 2017 6.09pm)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 07 Jun 17 6.11pm
Originally posted by Hansy She has visited the places. I've seen videos of her door knocking in alot of different areas. Just because she's not hosting rallies, and doing small Q and A sessions in warehouses doesn't mean that's all she is doing. Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave. And had the door shut in his face. The Sutton and Merton vote will be interesting. COYP
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Caterham 07 Jun 17 6.11pm

Originally posted by Hansy

Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave.

And had the door shut in his face. The Sutton and Merton vote will be interesting.

COYP

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hedgehog50 Croydon 07 Jun 17 6.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset H said loads of commies joined Labour to elect Corbyn. Given that there are only 700 of them... If Corbyn wins, do you think he will make you head of the Selhurst Soviet - you'd get one of those long leather coats and all that. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 07 Jun 17 6.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

H said loads of commies joined Labour to elect Corbyn. Given that there are only 700 of them...

If Corbyn wins, do you think he will make you head of the Selhurst Soviet - you'd get one of those long leather coats and all that.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.07pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Whereas you just constantly resort to name calling and trolling. I'm simply saying that they've not been saying they are out to give the UK a hard time, but that they will be representing the best interests of their own members. Certain analysis have insinuated that the EU will want to make an example out of the UK but there has been little of the rhetoric from those actually on the EU-27 negotiating team. In fact their position is strong and stable and they have clearly set their stall out, but have expressed a desire to worth with the UK and not to conduct negotiations at loggerheads. We should be entering negotiations with the same attitude and not "telling them to get stuffed" before we've even sat down. If you would rather just tell them to piss off before we've started and think that makes you look smart... well it don't Explain yourself on that statement please. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.07pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Whereas you just constantly resort to name calling and trolling.
I'm simply saying that they've not been saying they are out to give the UK a hard time, but that they will be representing the best interests of their own members. Certain analysis have insinuated that the EU will want to make an example out of the UK but there has been little of the rhetoric from those actually on the EU-27 negotiating team. In fact their position is strong and stable and they have clearly set their stall out, but have expressed a desire to worth with the UK and not to conduct negotiations at loggerheads. We should be entering negotiations with the same attitude and not "telling them to get stuffed" before we've even sat down. If you would rather just tell them to piss off before we've started and think that makes you look smart... well it don't

Explain yourself on that statement please.

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.12pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle The headline says they are trying to sabotage a hard brexit, but then the article says the EU won't allow single market access (aka soft brexit). I suggest you follow your own advice. Your not steeleye20 by any chance ??? Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.12pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

The headline says they are trying to sabotage a hard brexit, but then the article says the EU won't allow single market access (aka soft brexit). I suggest you follow your own advice.

Your not steeleye20 by any chance ???

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.16pm
Originally posted by nickgusset If she's still in office. [Link] and [Link] The opposition will try ANYTHING Nick to get what they want. It is what I call poor politics. Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Jun 17 7.16pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

If she's still in office.

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and

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The opposition will try ANYTHING Nick to get what they want. It is what I call poor politics.

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 07 Jun 17 7.19pm
Originally posted by serial thriller London is definitely not all Labour. Start of the election it was polling mainly tory, and seats like battersea, tooting, croydon central are important marginals. But i'm more interested in what you say about May. When you say shes 'campaigning' in marginals, what part of her campaigning is actually aimed at winning over voters? She does a speech to tory party members, takes handpicked questions from the media and locks out people trying to get in to hear her. That isnt campaigning, its preaching to the choir and shielding yourself from the public. Where to start with this...? Labour hold 45 out of 73 seats in London. Look at a map of how the country voted last time, Labour already gained 7 seats at the last election in London. It's their stronghold, and I daresay they'll gain a couple more. But the vast majority of marginals aren't held in London. When people talk of Labour being in an Islington bubble, this is exactly what they're talking about. Surely you can see the irony of saying May is "preaching to the choir" when Corbyn is doing rallies to huge crowds that already support him? Maybe you're right and I'm wrong, but I just don't see how Corbyn's campaign strategy helps him win back seats in the Midlands for example. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Originally posted by serial thriller

London is definitely not all Labour. Start of the election it was polling mainly tory, and seats like battersea, tooting, croydon central are important marginals.

But i'm more interested in what you say about May. When you say shes 'campaigning' in marginals, what part of her campaigning is actually aimed at winning over voters? She does a speech to tory party members, takes handpicked questions from the media and locks out people trying to get in to hear her. That isnt campaigning, its preaching to the choir and shielding yourself from the public.

Where to start with this...?

Labour hold 45 out of 73 seats in London. Look at a map of how the country voted last time, Labour already gained 7 seats at the last election in London. It's their stronghold, and I daresay they'll gain a couple more. But the vast majority of marginals aren't held in London. When people talk of Labour being in an Islington bubble, this is exactly what they're talking about.

Surely you can see the irony of saying May is "preaching to the choir" when Corbyn is doing rallies to huge crowds that already support him? Maybe you're right and I'm wrong, but I just don't see how Corbyn's campaign strategy helps him win back seats in the Midlands for example.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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serial thriller The Promised Land 07 Jun 17 7.20pm
Originally posted by Hansy She has visited the places. I've seen videos of her door knocking in alot of different areas. Just because she's not hosting rallies, and doing small Q and A sessions in warehouses doesn't mean that's all she is doing. Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave. But even with door knocking, each party has a complete record of every house's residents and voter histories. She will only have knocked safe tory houses, even then a few have challenged her and she's wilted. [Link] Look at this link. Even respected right wing journalists have been incredibly frustrated by her for not taking a broad range of questions. The aim of visiting areas is to engage with the people who might win you the constituency. If you can find me one example of her actually leaving a pre-planned space and meeting real people, i'll admit i'm wrong. For anyone interested in democracy, accountability or rigour, her performance in these past 6 weeks is a total f***ing farce. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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The Promised Land 07 Jun 17 7.20pm

Originally posted by Hansy

Special mention to the Lib Dems and Fallon who have been focusing on areas that voted in favour of Leave.

But even with door knocking, each party has a complete record of every house's residents and voter histories. She will only have knocked safe tory houses, even then a few have challenged her and she's wilted.

[Link]

Look at this link. Even respected right wing journalists have been incredibly frustrated by her for not taking a broad range of questions.

The aim of visiting areas is to engage with the people who might win you the constituency. If you can find me one example of her actually leaving a pre-planned space and meeting real people, i'll admit i'm wrong.

For anyone interested in democracy, accountability or rigour, her performance in these past 6 weeks is a total f***ing farce.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 07 Jun 17 7.25pm
Originally posted by serial thriller But even with door knocking, each party has a complete record of every house's residents and voter histories. She will only have knocked safe tory houses, even then a few have challenged her and she's wilted. [Link] Look at this link. Even respected right wing journalists have been incredibly frustrated by her for not taking a broad range of questions. The aim of visiting areas is to engage with the people who might win you the constituency. If you can find me one example of her actually leaving a pre-planned space and meeting real people, i'll admit i'm wrong. For anyone interested in democracy, accountability or rigour, her performance in these past 6 weeks is a total f*ing farce. Attachment**: marginals.jpg (123.88Kb) The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Originally posted by serial thriller

[Link]

Look at this link. Even respected right wing journalists have been incredibly frustrated by her for not taking a broad range of questions.

For anyone interested in democracy, accountability or rigour, her performance in these past 6 weeks is a total f***ing farce.

Attachment: marginals.jpg (123.88Kb)

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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