Hmmm, the post-referendum conversation I had with the post-grad who actually graduated with a reputable class of degree, although in a practical subject, virtually just kept saying "I know I'm right, I know I'm right. No I'm not listening" and pretty much put her hands over her ears and tried to walk away. Apparently that's how grads debate. If you don't agree, get out or agree.

On 'Divided Nation' last night on Sky News they found some odd balls from smaller towns who voted leave and then some educated people who voted remain, including 6 Cambridge students. Hardly balanced. The media need to be more responsible on this. At least in the studio after 30 mins of this manipulated tour of Britain there were educated and multi-racial people who voted leave, and they weren't leavers who want out to get their relatives in, they think Britain should have sovereignty, starting with immigration, because it's ridiculous we haven't.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (05 Jul 2016 4.58pm)

Hrolf, I raised this point with Rudi yesterday - you very loudly objected to any stereotyping of Brexiters on this board throughout the referendum. Why do you see fit to stereotype a different group of society in exactly the same manner?

Your daughter might be the reincarnation of Nietzsche but being intelligent, well educated or opinionated does not mean you are wise or have the benefit of experience.
Most teenagers, especially University educated ones are full of their own self importance and perceived intellect. The splurge out trite, cliched observations that they usually got from their parents or from some lecturer or a book they once read.

I'd raise the voting age to 25.

I haven't. I am speaking from my experience.

That is how people generally form opinions and that is key to what I am suggesting about the young. They are not well qualified to make decisions regarding the national interest because they have not lived long enough to gain sufficient life experience or perspective.
Even if you never become smart or educated, you should at least have that.

I haven't. I am speaking from my experience.

That is how people generally form opinions and that is key to what I am suggesting about the young. They are not well qualified to make decisions regarding the national interest because they have not lived long enough to gain sufficient life experience or perspective.
Even if you never become smart or educated, you should at least have that.

All stereotypes come from people's experiences, it doesn't make them right.

To use your previous post as an example, if I was to say;

Brexiters are all racists who have no idea the true implications of leaving the EU. Most brexiters, particularly from the north of the country, spout bigoted nonsense that they probably read in the daily mail.

I'd ban them from voting.

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If I say that's based on my experiences of the tiny percentage of Brexiters that I've seen/head from, that's ok?