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Hansy Flag 07 Jun 17 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

As long as people respect democracy, I am happy.

The sh*tshow after Brexit was announced was embarrassing.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 17 4.52pm

Originally posted by susmik

To be honest the BBC or should I say CBC (Corbyns Broadcasting Company)has been following Corbyn every where and left May out in the cold. I think it is because the BBC has always lent towards Labour all these years.
Thank god the election is tomorrow and we can get down to sorting Brexit out as May needs to get her arse in gear and sort out the EU countries dying to have a go at us. I suppose though there will be thread after thread of how Corbyn got ripped off, the vote was fixed etc.... But hey ho that's politics.

If she's still in office.

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and

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 07 Jun 17 4.55pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So out of the 150000+ who joined Labour in the Corbyn era, how many are commies, keeping in mind that in 2015 the CPB polled 1229 votes and that there were in 2015 , 772 members of the party [Link] ?

From the New Statesman:
"In the same 2006 interview he [McDonnell] argued that the first-past-the-post electoral system and “the affinity and loyalty of the large section of the labour movement and of the working class” to Labour (“you can call it false consciousness or whatever”) meant for “very pragmatic reasons” it was “important to work within” the party ... “It's the old Gramsci thing - we're trying to win the battle of ideas on the basis of a really thorough, democratic debate. So we're trying to win hegemony within both the party and the country. And then, use that battle of ideas to make sure we can reflect that in the battle of organisation within the movement overall.”

Antonio Gramsci, one of the most influential Marxist thinkers, advocated a “long march through the institutions”. This entailed working within established organisations (such as Labour) with the intention of winning them for the revolutionary cause.
McDonnell’s strategy was derided by leftists such as George Galloway. But with the election of Corbyn as leader it was vindicated. In 2006, McDonnell spoke presciently of a “dormant” left which could “easily be re-engaged” with Labour. Ed Miliband’s reform of the party’s leadership voting system in 2014 transferred sovereignty to them. In what he regarded as the twilight of his political career, McDonnell’s “long march” finally bore fruit."

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 17 4.59pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

From the New Statesman:
"In the same 2006 interview he [McDonnell] argued that the first-past-the-post electoral system and “the affinity and loyalty of the large section of the labour movement and of the working class” to Labour (“you can call it false consciousness or whatever”) meant for “very pragmatic reasons” it was “important to work within” the party ... “It's the old Gramsci thing - we're trying to win the battle of ideas on the basis of a really thorough, democratic debate. So we're trying to win hegemony within both the party and the country. And then, use that battle of ideas to make sure we can reflect that in the battle of organisation within the movement overall.”

Antonio Gramsci, one of the most influential Marxist thinkers, advocated a “long march through the institutions”. This entailed working within established organisations (such as Labour) with the intention of winning them for the revolutionary cause.
McDonnell’s strategy was derided by leftists such as George Galloway. But with the election of Corbyn as leader it was vindicated. In 2006, McDonnell spoke presciently of a “dormant” left which could “easily be re-engaged” with Labour. Ed Miliband’s reform of the party’s leadership voting system in 2014 transferred sovereignty to them. In what he regarded as the twilight of his political career, McDonnell’s “long march” finally bore fruit."

That's doesn't answer my question about the number of commies who have joined the Labour party.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 07 Jun 17 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

If she's still in office.

[Link]

and

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If it is untrue then she should apologise. If you go down the route of trying to prosecute every politician who lies / misrepresents what another has said, we won't have anyone left

All sides do it all the time. Doesn't make it right but if the police tried to do anything it would open a can of worms

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jun 17 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

So out of the 150000+ who joined Labour in the Corbyn era, how many are commies, keeping in mind that in 2015 the CPB polled 1229 votes and that there were in 2015 , 772 members of the party [Link] ?

The loony left is alive and well in the Labour membership and Corby is their god. Call them what you like.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jun 17 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

That's doesn't answer my question about the number of commies who have joined the Labour party.

Joined?

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hansy Flag 07 Jun 17 5.11pm Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Jeremy Corbyn has made a staunch defence of his decision to draft in a former trade union official to help run Labour’s general election campaign.

Murray, who quit the Communist Party of Great Britain last year to join Labour, has come under fire for his previous views on Stalin and North Korea.

Maybe just one. One too many

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Jun 17 5.13pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Joined?

H said loads of commies joined Labour to elect Corbyn. Given that there are only 700 of them...

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 07 Jun 17 5.15pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

That's doesn't answer my question about the number of commies who have joined the Labour party.

Well, McDonnell for one obviously. Out of the 150,000? I would put it at 145,069 - no, on reflection, 145,066 [three of them are anarcho-syndicalists].

Edited by hedgehog50 (07 Jun 2017 5.27pm)

 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 07 Jun 17 5.33pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Add this to her being found to having acted unlawfully while home sec and her support of candidate being prosecuted for electoral fraud. She holds us, our rights and our laws in contempt and acts as if she's above them.

 

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Hansy Flag 07 Jun 17 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Add this to her being found to having acted unlawfully while home sec and her support of candidate being prosecuted for electoral fraud. She holds us, our rights and our laws in contempt and acts as if she's above them.

And Blair involved us in an illegal war. Come on, these are politicians, they all lie.

 

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