You jog on, I didn't ask you for your input. I couldn't really give a fig what a gay disco supporter thinks.

Call me a Nazi and then suggest I shouldn't respond aggressively? You probably don't even know what a Nazi believes in. Perhaps you should take your low watt opinions to someone else if you don't like the feedback.

My position has been made clear multiple times on this thread on all these topics and I can't be bothered to endlessly repeat them to every low brow commentator who turns up with an axe to grind.

Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Sep 2022 11.42pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I haven't paid to much attention to the details of the war so maybe my assumptions are wrong:

Russia has a history of losing battles and territory but then coming back and eventually winning. It is a huge country with huge resources, Putin and his generals have made a complete mess of the invasion but it doesn't mean that they cannot turn it around in the end.

They have resources to waste.

I hope this is the break through that forces Russia to the negotiating table but until that happens I would be wary in declaring victory.

One more point

One more point

Didn't they, at one point, quite brilliantly and tactically retreat incrementally to lure the Germans into harsher and harsher weather for which they had not and were not prepared for and thus unable to cope with? I was under the impression they did and if so that is quite clever, if not I of course apologise for my nonsense.

As for your second comment, that is my fear I must say. Either that or worse yet resort to more extreme methods. Either way I do hope some sort of ending is nigh. 'War really is hell' and far more worrying prospects still loom as it continues. I would think as the Ukrainians gain ground the 'West' may be further encouraged to support them and will do so equally so as long as supply lines can be rebuilt and available however I have no evidence suggest they can and/or will.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I think my position is best summed up as what's outcome do I think is best for my country and while that is true, probably more accurately how it affects me and mine.

My views were always that this war was and is a disaster that can't be won and needs to be stopped as soon as humanly possible. March was a huge missed opportunity that is unlkely to be available again. I've never agreed with the war's continuance and I don't think 'winning' and humiliating Putin is a good idea at all anyway even if it could happen. In fact I think it's highly dangerous....in reality I think we have already made a rod for our own back that will only hurt us.

My position is more in line with both Orban and Jordan Peterson's and neither of them are uncritical of Russia and in fact both of them criticise both parties but Nato policy more.

I think we are led by a ship of fools and the outcome of this is more poverty and a high probability of escalation where millions could die.

Feck winning, there is no winning only losing in different ways. I couldn't give a flying feck which slav controls which piece of slavic ground. None of them would freeze for us and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.

This is cold war and it's pure idiocy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2022 2.46pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Very interesting and I'd like to say promising however have no idea how that bodes in the grand scheme of all things.

Are their any immediate sources able to be shared etc. Steely?

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!