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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Oct 23 10.57pm | |
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No need. It’s explained perfectly well in the article. Of course that won’t satisfy politicians or people with your political outlook but I understand why it’s necessary for a public service broadcaster with such a high reputation for impartiality as the BBC (with anyone objectively looking at the facts) to adopt such a position. They aren’t alone. They condemn acts of terrorism and atrocities but leave it to us to decide the label we use about the perpetrators. They report how others describe them though. If impartiality is your gold standard then impartial you must be, no matter how upset that makes some people.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Oct 23 11.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
If the UK Government have Hamas down as a terrorist organisation then that is what they are ‘officially’. When the BBC tries not to offend small sections of the community they end up offending the majority. The BBC is not the mouthpiece of the government. They will report what the government says but not say it themselves.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Oct 23 11.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglehamster
This one occasion where the BBC have it wrong, for me. For far too long we have been treading on egg shells not to "offend" muslims. I loath the way their religion is interpreted. It's archaic and abusive to women. We simply have to face up to the fact that many of them are our enemy. Those who aren't never seem to stand up to the militants. The problem won't go away by appeasing them. It has nothing to do with not wishing to upset Muslims. Exactly the same approach is taken with every group or religion. They report facts. They leave us to reach opinions.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 12 Oct 23 9.41am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The BBC is not the mouthpiece of the government. They will report what the government says but not say it themselves. Strange. I’m pretty sure that during the statues malarkey those wishing to gather around statues to protect them were labelled right wing extremists by the media outlets. Doesn’t seem very impartial unless they asked everybody around the statues whether they were right wing extremists and the majority answered ‘yes’.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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silvertop Portishead 12 Oct 23 10.18am | |
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It is indefensible and, worst of all, daft. Hamas has been prescribed, through secondary legislation, as a terrorist organization. If any sensitive voices out there are offended by the BBC describing them as such, the BBC can simply hide behind the law and advise them to contact their MP if they don't like it. The BBC can (quite rightly) decry the fate of many innocent Palestinians caught up in this horror. The Israeli thirst for blood in destroying entire apartment blocks as there may (or may not) be a few Hamas leaders staying there is unconscionable and must be reported. However, having that message distracted by this sort of pedantic semantic is pure stupidity.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 23 10.51am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It has nothing to do with not wishing to upset Muslims. Exactly the same approach is taken with every group or religion. They report facts. They leave us to reach opinions. Of course it is. The BBC has been hijacked by leftists and Labour rely on the block vote of Muslims. The BBC of 2023 is no longer neutral. The Labour party will be running scared of offending minorities. This is the predictable reality of Britain that Tony Blair created.
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Stirlingsays 12 Oct 23 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Of course it is. The BBC has been hijacked by leftists and Labour rely on the block vote of Muslims. The BBC of 2023 is no longer neutral. The Labour party will be running scared of offending minorities. This is the predictable reality of Britain that Tony Blair created. Pretty much. Blair is the dark lord himself.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 12 Oct 23 12.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
the paradox being that, ideologically, Labour are often quite far from them, ideologically. - LGBT - Attitudes to AntiSemitism - alcohol & drugs
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Oct 23 1.10pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the paradox being that, ideologically, Labour are often quite far from them, ideologically. - LGBT - Attitudes to AntiSemitism - alcohol & drugs
Labour stands for what ever might get them in power. The perception that Leftists are generally happy to see immigrants flood the country and be given positive discrimination is common.
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georgenorman 12 Oct 23 3.24pm | |
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So the BBC can't bring themselves to describe people who behead babies, rape women, execute children in front of their parents before killing them, as terrorists. Clearly the BBC is incapable of reporting the bleeding (in every sense of the word) obvious. Time they were got rid of, or at least made to finance themselves.
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silvertop Portishead 12 Oct 23 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
So the BBC can't bring themselves to describe people who behead babies, rape women, execute children in front of their parents before killing them, as terrorists. Clearly the BBC is incapable of reporting the bleeding (in every sense of the word) obvious. Time they were got rid of, or at least made to finance themselves. Notwithstanding what I said above, the problem with Hamas is they were elected. Thus, it was (past tense) difficult to describe them as terrorists if they were also duly elected representatives for their people. It is wholly counter to the definition of that word to describe an elected body as terrorists. Thus, if you describe them as terrorists, you MUST also describe Israel as the same, given they murder hundreds of innocent - but "acceptable collateral" - Palestinians every year. It is a murky area. That said, their conduct and constitution has altered all that to the extent that the UK has had to formally designated them as such. Nevertheless, it stuns me that many posters on here are genuinely of the view that the only good Arab/Muslim is a dead one. I find those views appalling and have a great deal of sympathy with the Palestinian people who have been robbed and exiled and then repeatedly kicked while down. However, my sympathy does not extend to Hamas. Not just through their conduct, but by their desire to murder millions of Israelis and then set up a brutal, theocratic dictatorship. The trouble is, I do not know how to wipe them off the face of the map without murdering countless innocents. It is certainly not by the methods adopted by the current murderous, failed, Israeli government whose blood lust will cause awful consequent events to ripple through history. All this while the West sits in the sidelines cheering them on, oblivious to the consequences. Edited by silvertop (12 Oct 2023 4.48pm) Edited by silvertop (12 Oct 2023 4.49pm)
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georgenorman 12 Oct 23 4.52pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Notwithstanding what I said above, the problem with Hamas is they were elected. Thus, it was (past tense) difficult to describe them as terrorists if they were also duly elected representatives for their people. It is wholly counter to the definition of that word to describe an elected body as terrorists. Thus, if you describe them as terrorists, you MUST also describe Israel as the same, given they murder hundreds of innocent - but "acceptable collateral" - Palestinians every year. It is a murky area. That said, their conduct and constitution has altered all that to the extent that the UK has had to formally designated them as such. Nevertheless, it stuns me that many posters on here are genuinely of the view that the only good Arab/Muslim is a dead one. I find those views appalling and have a great deal of sympathy with the Palestinian people who have been robbed and exiled and then repeatedly kicked while down. However, my sympathy does not extend to Hamas. Not just through their conduct, but by their desire to murder millions of Israelis and then set up a brutal, theocratic dictatorship. The trouble is, I do not know how to wipe them off the face of the map without murdering countless innocents. It is certainly not by the methods adopted by the current murderous, failed, Israeli government whose blood lust will cause awful consequent events to ripple through history. All this while the West sits in the sidelines cheering them on, oblivious to the consequences. Edited by silvertop (12 Oct 2023 4.48pm) Edited by silvertop (12 Oct 2023 4.49pm) So was Hitler. If you/they don't want to call them terrorists, how about war criminals.
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