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Dubai Eagle Flag 01 Jun 24 9.43am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Just about every (so called) independent financial advisor I have ever spoken to has said that by the time I need state pension it will not be worth the proverbial state pot to pee in.

I am not saying its not true (state coffers may be empty) -
I just cant help feeling cynical about the place this guidance is coming from.

Originally posted by HKOwen

A huge amount is paid out for compensation by various government agencies.

When you stop and think for a minute the waste is mind boggling, then there's the future pension provisions.

There is a school of thought that the state pension will have run out of money by 2040

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jun 24 10.12am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I get my state pension in a couple of years. At the moment it is £11,500 pa. Not too shabby.

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Jun 24 10.52pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I get my state pension in a couple of years. At the moment it is £11,500 pa. Not too shabby.

Labour have 100% refused to rule out taxing the state pension so might get shabbier soon

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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becky Flag over the moon 02 Jun 24 7.31am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Labour have 100% refused to rule out taxing the state pension so might get shabbier soon

They already do tax the State Pension - they just don't deduct the tax from it.

If your pension is above the tax threshold, the Inland Revenue will bill you annually for any tax due, and if you have a private pension, annuity or any other income, then the tax for everything is deducted from that.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Jun 24 7.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

They already do tax the State Pension - they just don't deduct the tax from it.

If your pension is above the tax threshold, the Inland Revenue will bill you annually for any tax due, and if you have a private pension, annuity or any other income, then the tax for everything is deducted from that.

That is my understanding. I already pay tax on my private pension so when my state pension kicks in I will reduce the income from that by £11,500 to avoid paying more.

I think the issue is that many people just have a state pension to live on, and because the income tax threshold has not been raised for years, whilst pension have gone up, it is possible that they could pay tax in the future solely on their state pension.

Both parties are wriggling around on this, they know that taxing someone just on their state pension is a voting disaster but neither side wants to commit not to.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 03 Jun 24 4.23pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Farage is back as much as I like Farage he will take votes away from the tories and it's a shoe in for labor now.

 

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 03 Jun 24 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Farage is back as much as I like Farage he will take votes away from the tories and it's a shoe in for labor now.

Finally someone worth voting for.

As he says, he wants reform to be the proper opposition to Labour.

The Conservatives need to cease existing.

 


The mountains are calling & I must go.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 03 Jun 24 5.15pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Farage is back as much as I like Farage he will take votes away from the tories and it's a shoe in for labor now.

He will take a lot of working class Labour votes as well as Tory votes.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Jun 24 8.55am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

He will take a lot of working class Labour votes as well as Tory votes.

It’s not going to make any difference. The only question is how big the Labour majority is going to be. The most recent poll, a sophisticated one from YouGov, suggests it will be bigger than a landslide, but that Reform will still get no seats.

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Farage might change that a little and take Clacton himself, but it’s what happens next to the Tories that’s really interesting. Will they fade away with their right wing walking over to Reform? Or will they dig in, rebuild and allow Labour to carry the can for the next 5 years? Who leads the Tories after Sunak is important. That fight has already started.

Until we get PR we won’t see either Reform or the LibDems getting the numbers the level of their support justifies. That won’t be on offer from a Labour government with a huge majority.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Jun 24 9.12am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It’s not going to make any difference. The only question is how big the Labour majority is going to be. The most recent poll, a sophisticated one from YouGov, suggests it will be bigger than a landslide, but that Reform will still get no seats.

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Farage might change that a little and take Clacton himself, but it’s what happens next to the Tories that’s really interesting. Will they fade away with their right wing walking over to Reform? Or will they dig in, rebuild and allow Labour to carry the can for the next 5 years? Who leads the Tories after Sunak is important. That fight has already started.

Until we get PR we won’t see either Reform or the LibDems getting the numbers the level of their support justifies. That won’t be on offer from a Labour government with a huge majority.

Why would any sensible person want more Lib Dems?

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Jun 24 9.20am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Why would any sensible person want more Lib Dems?

I am already fed up with their stupid photo bombing, gimmicks and stunts. This isn't "you got punked" its an election, just grow up.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 04 Jun 24 9.27am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

As has been proven recently across europe. With "right wing" parties making a mockery of them come.election day.

Polls mean absolutely nothing. They are just made up. What counts is votes on election day. (Unless it's America)

 

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