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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 16 Oct 22 8.53pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Listen, the Irish are mustard at growth.

Once again Ireland’s GDP (Gross Domestic Product) data are beating all expectations, but mainly on the back of the volatile and buoyant multinational sector (we are not allowed to say the EU).

Irish GDP rose by 10.8% in Q1 2022,

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Oct 22 9.01pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Listen, the Irish are mustard at growth.

Once again Ireland’s GDP (Gross Domestic Product) data are beating all expectations, but mainly on the back of the volatile and buoyant multinational sector (we are not allowed to say the EU).

Irish GDP rose by 10.8% in Q1 2022,

Don"t tell Stirling!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 16 Oct 22 9.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Listen, the Irish are mustard at growth.

Once again Ireland’s GDP (Gross Domestic Product) data are beating all expectations, but mainly on the back of the volatile and buoyant multinational sector (we are not allowed to say the EU).

Irish GDP rose by 10.8% in Q1 2022,

Probably hotel bookings, pizzas and iPhones by the government and knife sales to the new clientele.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Oct 22 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So freedom of choice now makes you a racist. Maybe the khant effect where he wants to cut down on western values creates these ‘racists’. A Muslim example for people not to follow!

No.

Racists aren’t made via having freedom of choice.

Everyone has the choice of being a prat.

 


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Originally posted by croydon proud

Don"t tell Stirling!

Well, everyone loves a potato don't they.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 17 Oct 22 5.27am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

Racists aren’t made via having freedom of choice.

Everyone has the choice of being a prat.

Mmmmm

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 17 Oct 22 6.02am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Some media outlets wondering 'when' the leadership challenge will come, not 'if'.
I am getting used to the idea of having an unelected PM, it seems we've had so many recently.
I'm thinking the change will need to be made soon, to give some bedding-in time before the general election.

A Government in absolute chaos,...for which they will be rewarded ££££.
And Labour will be no shoe-in, either.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 17 Oct 22 6.38am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

,..and i know the PM is always elected by the Party, not the electorate, but you get my drift

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 22 8.45am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

,..and i know the PM is always elected by the Party, not the electorate, but you get my drift

This is a crucially interesting issue at the moment, which I believe worthy of examination.

Although a common perception, I don't think the PM being elected by the Party is actually true, for reasons I hope will become more obvious, and openly discussed, in the coming days and weeks.

The Monarch appoints whichever MP can command the confidence of the House to become PM and form a government. Theoretically that could be any one of them.

Parties choose their leaders and, by convention, if they hold the largest number of seats, they become the PM. It doesn't have to be so though. Our MPs could decide to choose who-ever they have confidence in. Especially in a crisis.

So we choose our MPs and they, representing us, choose the PM. At a GE the parties decide which candidates they offer to us, but actually that's their only fixed input. They could select a leader to head their campaign but the MPs could select someone else once elected. It doesn't happen, but it could. We expect the person heading the campaign, whose party wins, to be "our" choice.

The real issue is when a PM loses the confidence of their MPs, between GEs, and needs to stand down, as happened with Johnson and again now. The inertia as a consequence of the system currently employed, by both major parties, to choose a new leader, who is then nodded through by the MPs, doesn't serve our needs. We need action now. Our representatives need to act. There is nothing legally stopping them. It is only the fear of the consequences to their, rather than the country's, future that does. Once those consequences look worse if they don't act, than if they do, then action seems probable. I think we are at that point.

For the future, I don't know if the Tory Party membership has either the wisdom, or the ability, to revise their system. Some of them seem to think it's their God given right to choose our PM. I am pretty certain the Labour Party is even less able to change.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Oct 22 9.39am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

For the future, I don't know if the Tory Party membership has either the wisdom, or the ability, to revise their system. Some of them seem to think it's their God given right to choose our PM.

Is it down to the elderly buffoons who seem to comprise the Tory Party membership to revise the rules as I thought that it would have been the 1922 committee who handled such things

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 17 Oct 22 10.19am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Buffoonery has no political sway. I have seen Labourites refusing to contact police about local crime because of grudges they still harbour over the miner's strike.
Similarly, I have seen farmer's fields used for poster campaigns for Boris to get us out of Europe. Like Turkey's voting for Christmas.

What enrages me is the political system which allows incompetent politicians to remain in power, even when clearly unfit to do so. Food banks, soup kitchens, power cuts are all on the cards this Christmas. Not so for the vvankers who got us here. They'll still be pi$$ing it up on expenses.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Oct 22 10.32am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Buffoonery has no political sway. I have seen Labourites refusing to contact police about local crime because of grudges they still harbour over the miner's strike.
Similarly, I have seen farmer's fields used for poster campaigns for Boris to get us out of Europe. Like Turkey's voting for Christmas.

What enrages me is the political system which allows incompetent politicians to remain in power, even when clearly unfit to do so. Food banks, soup kitchens, power cuts are all on the cards this Christmas. Not so for the vvankers who got us here. They'll still be pi$$ing it up on expenses.

And when finally the electorate are given the opportunity to sack them at election time they pop up in the House of Lords.

 


One more point

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