But if your gonna do that factor in the percentage of violent crimes committed by each race you can't include a majority population who haven't committed violent crime that's like including all the palace fans in Croydon as the attendance at selhurst.

They are 13 percent of the population yet responsible for over 50 percent of the murders. I'm not sure what the violent crime stat is but it's probably similar.

That being the case of course they are going to come into contact with law enforcement more and make up a higher total.

The idea that Police are murdering blacks out of racism is made up. I could post some videos on here of Police killing whites, often without good cause....and they usually get off.

The left are lying and are indoctrinating blacks with falsehoods for votes who in turn....along with groups like Antifa are destroying their own neighborhoods.

They are only hurting themselves ultimately.....If I were a Republican state I would seriously bulk at picking up the tab to rebuild their cities.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Jun 2020 7.48am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

But the original stat was for deaths In every 10,000 people arrested in each group not for every person in the population.

I will be nursing the knees of any cheery black clappers.

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1. Credit to you for acknowledging that what is condemned in one riot where countless police and protesters were hurt, was given a total free pass in another. I can understand why, even while realising that, you're still searching for reasons why it might somehow be justified, or valuing one persons anger more than another. It's the disconnect you highlight. We're wired for bad news and overlook commonality and mundanity.

Interestingly, Cryst criticised both protests; and was bizarrely even attacked for condemning the looting in France. Nobody else spoke up against it. He applied principle to both those he agrees and disagrees with. Some people in that thread were practically reveling in the rioting. Barely a word or care throughout for those injured or killed.

2. Have you considered the fact that people not speaking out, either through their politics or fear, and not being so outraged that they protested en masse made these injustices more likely to continue? I very much doubt the government cares about tweets or forum posts. That's "the rub" with protesting, either stateside now or for any cause. It will attract elements looking to disrupt and inflame, it will damage your cause even if there is value to it. But at the same time it will make government notice and may get some concessions from them. That's the dilemma.

Yes I recall Naz Shad saying that, in a sense it's perhaps one of the most despicable things I've ever heard.

I wouldn't tell anyone to riot about anything. I certainly have a wealth of respect for people who peacefully protest though, whatever their cause really. It's one of the vital pillars of society and yet people, especially us Brits, are taught to believe that if you protest you're wasting your time or are some kind of trouble maker by default. All protests risk being condemned and can be infiltrated by more unsavory elements who but it doesn't invalidate them taking place.

Change is possible via protest, but people do pay a price for their convictions and popular support may not always go hand in hand with policy change. As a wider point, we're all ultimately playing a losing hand when we go up against power structures. They can adapt and infiltrate and brutalise if and when they need to. It's a stacked deck. That's why people with more in common than different end up fighting each other. That's the only game they let us play. Every leader offering hope and change or to drain the swamp just peddle a different brand of snake oil, while feathering their own nest.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Jun 2020 7.20pm)