Same answer. I am not qualified to judge. We are not all experts on everything. That's why we have child phycologists, and other specialists, advising those who create the curriculums, which reflect the society that the children are going to live in.

Back when I had kids that society was markedly different to today's.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

A sudden shaft of the light of truth.

It's you stuck in an 80s time warp that's behind your attitude!

I am glad that you finally recognise it.

What was normal for Tom, Barbara, Jerry, Margot and Stirling in the 80s isn't in 2022. Time moves on. So must we.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Yep, the old 'times are a changing' rhetoric is always very convenient for those who support the winds. I wonder if the same mentality/mantra was applicable in mid-30's Bavaria?

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I do wonder at what point you would resist the change mechanism that you seem to be so fond of. Just because things change doesn't make the situation better (for either the individual or society as a whole). Was moving from taking back the empty glass Corona bottles to the shop that you bought them from and replacing them with non-recylable plastic ones that float in the ocean, a good idea?

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

I have very genuine concerns with such statements.

I worked within a 'D&I' team upon it's emergence where it's core values of acknowledging the racial, cultural, physical capabilities, socio-economic and other 'diversities' within workforces (equally applicable to society) were fought so as not to alienate or indeed persecute each group and ensure 'inclusivity' paved the way for each and every individual being afforded equitable opportunity, value and treatment. That was the purpose at it's heart.

That moniker has been tarnished and I dare suggest hijacked now and subjecting children, and those who have no interest, to nonsense, especially that which is harmful, is now deemed within that bracket too as has been demonstrated. We have a world with plenty of violent, degenerate, self-serving, ideologically driven people - you can include nonces, drug taking enthusiasts, criminals, racists and anarchists in that bracket. That is not the purpose of D&I. It is based in the old principle of you being allowed to exist and do whatever you please, so long as it does not infringe on the freedom of others, without facing persecution for your exercising of said freedom.

Children, or anyone who wishes to be, must be free from sexualisation and receive healthy guidance including tolerance for others. Hijacking anyone's, especially children's, formal or informal education to tailor it to any dogmas or beliefs should be persecuted. You can't b******ise and conflate freedom and inclusivity with anarchy and the promotion of your own selfish will/worldview. You cannot claim persecution as an infringement of your freedom whilst infringing on others'.

Exposing children to adults operating within a sexual environment should be worthy of hanging as children should not be sexualised. There is a difference between allowing people to make their own choices when they are capable of doing so, and being free in that process, to subjecting children to things which are inappropriate whilst claiming it to be in the same vain. Why this grey has been allowed to come to life and is not seen by others is absolutely bonkers to me.

I genuinely fear one day historians will look back on all this and say 'this started off as x.... however quickly went downhill as the sentiment and movement was hijacked by lunatics who were endorsed and joined by halfwits and failures'. I say fear, any such remark would suggest that some common sense had been reestablished.

Finally, I do wonder at what stage the likes of Russia will look back on their one party, autocratic, communist rule and say 'Ah, we should have walked this back, it went too far'. One might of hoped Stalin's purges would inspire that however Putin still seems to have a firm grip on that now pariah state. F**king nonsense abound really is.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

So they’re not your own kids then?
All I asked was what would be acceptable to your kids. Mine would probably be around 13 as by then they really should have half an idea about bees and birds etc. then wonder why some geezer is dressed like a tart at a prom.