I'll put it this way on these figures - and not an exaggeration - if they were true, Russia would have lost. The figures you see would be roughly the size (more in some cases) than the entire British Armed Forces.

Red and Blue Army!

I'll put out this observation that someone I'm aware of wrote:

'As we speak there's a UK government department working with consultants on a strategy for controlling dissent this winter.

There will be a wall to wall media campaign of "blitz spirit" images of families and multiracial Britain wearing jumpers and socks for Ukraine, with the blame aimed at Vladolf Putler.

This message will then be disseminated through the population by media addicted busybody women looking for the latest do-good cause and fuel poverty marches will get zero media coverage.

This is how control of liberal democracies works now. You're all atomised individuals, capital owns media and the NPCs enforce the dominant narrative sufficiently.'

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

The normal lad and lass are caught in the middle of a power struggle between competing world systems that perhaps have more interest in continuing that struggle than winning it....partly as its continuation gives them purpose and money.

It's the working people and vulnerable who are suffering and are going to suffer much more as this madness carries on. Heaped on top of the covid 'economic Karen' nuttery we are about as fecked as it gets.

My view is that America has always sought to drive a wedge between Germany and Russia as in combination Europe becomes a rival superpower.

I don't think it's an accident that Russia was fleeced when it opened up economically and still wasn't incorporated into a wider Europe in the nineties.

It's all a tragedy of what could have been and those elites going around pointing fingers at Russia are probably the type most at fault for it. Anyone who was around and taking note in the nineties knows that Putin was relatively pro western.

I think people need to understand that there is no cheap energy without Russian gas and all this scrambling around for another solution doesn't change that.

As you rightly observe this war should have been negotiated in March and the economic madness avoided. But the elites wanted their death struggle with Putin and ensured the media supported it by one eyed takes. So we are all going down this path together.

I fully understand why you would want to head off. This country has been sold out by traitors over a couple of generations now and unfortunately the future here won't be brighter.

What you see in London now will be most of the country within another generation....only the wealthy gated bits will be worth living in by anybody expecting a decent existence.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2022 2.04pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Agreed. Though some on here still think Putin is some sort of hero to be looked up to.

Ending the cold war I agree, but what progress?

Russia was fleeced and the whole reason you have Putin is because of that.

Whatever you think of Putin, once he got in their standard of living rose considerably....that's factual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Sep 2022 2.48pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I would massively build up the military and I wouldn't have Russian ships doing whatever they liked off our coast. I wouldn't fight in Ukraine but we have to realise that one day Russia and/or China are going to do something and we will have to fight. Frankly, if I thought we'd ever be ready I'd say yes. My thoughts have always been it's going to be one day when China basically overruns the West. If Russia is their ally, then they would have to be dealt with at some stage. Shame we're so pathetic.

Red and Blue Army!