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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 03 May 20 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Maybe I should've said more honest compared to some countries, rather than having a complete picture. Of course in a perverse kind of way it might not be entirely a bad thing if more people have had it than we realise. That"s a more honest approach!
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 becky  over the moon 03 May 20 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
According to these figures, leaving America out, the UK, France, Italy and Spain have experienced 60% of Covid deaths worldwide. This doesn’t seem likely; either different measures are being used or some countries aren’t being honest. I thought that was a good set of figures....... until I scrolled down and saw that San Marino has a deaths per M of pop figure of 1,208........it only has a population of about 30 odd thousand, so that seems a bit extreme.
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 Spiderman Horsham 03 May 20 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The bloody BBC are beginning to annoy me with their Covid coverage as it seems that they will go to any lengths to find something negative to say. Watching the news at lunchtime today and they decided to find out what it was like for home testing so they had one woman on ranting about her her home testing kit had the return envelope missing and when she rang the testing phone line she was told to bin it and re-apply. The woman was ranting on how it was a disgrace and a poor show on behalf of the government who should be able to do better. I'm sure that if the BBC looked hard enough they could have found someone whose kit had arrived intact. They could even have rung me but no they preferred to stick with the just the one single negative report How dare you criticise the political neutral BBC, shame on you
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| Midlands Eagle 03 May 20 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I meant to add that following on to that interview the BBC newsreader said that many people were up in arms that diabetes hadn't been put on the Government's high risk category and started to interview a senior bod at Diabetes UK. The interview started with the newsreader asking whether he was annoyed that diabetes hadn't been included on the high risk list and the chappie said "no" as it hadn't been proved that diabetics were at higher risk and that they were still looking into it. The BBC man looked visibly irritated that his interview wasn't going to plan and tried to push the other bloke a bit more but just got the same response
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| stuckinbristol In the woodwork. 03 May 20 6.22pm |
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Jeremey Corbin's brother, Piers, has just been on the news.
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Teddy Eagle  03 May 20 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by becky
I thought that was a good set of figures....... until I scrolled down and saw that San Marino has a deaths per M of pop figure of 1,208........it only has a population of about 30 odd thousand, so that seems a bit extreme. I guess that’s the problem with extrapolation. Maybe a statistician could explain.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 03 May 20 7.25pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I guess that’s the problem with extrapolation. Maybe a statistician could explain. Maths in relation to raw data (depending how the data is derived) is easy. Including extrapolation.
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| silvertop Portishead 03 May 20 7.46pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
According to these figures, leaving America out, the UK, France, Italy and Spain have experienced 60% of Covid deaths worldwide. This doesn’t seem likely; either different measures are being used or some countries aren’t being honest. No!
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 May 20 9.11pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
No! Care to explain this. I assume you have proof to back it up
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 May 20 9.40pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I meant to add that following on to that interview the BBC newsreader said that many people were up in arms that diabetes hadn't been put on the Government's high risk category and started to interview a senior bod at Diabetes UK. The interview started with the newsreader asking whether he was annoyed that diabetes hadn't been included on the high risk list and the chappie said "no" as it hadn't been proved that diabetics were at higher risk and that they were still looking into it. The BBC man looked visibly irritated that his interview wasn't going to plan and tried to push the other bloke a bit more but just got the same response Whilst I am not diabetic a few of my friends are and they are concerned too. It's has been my understanding that as diabetes negatively impacts the immune response system that exposure to this virus puts a diabetic at greater risk. One friend has not been outside his front door in several weeks as a consequence he is so concerned. If this isn't true then someone needs to reassure people but it seems logical to me that it would be and that a diabetic needs to be cautious.
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| Laszlo Panaflex 03 May 20 10.14pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst I am not diabetic a few of my friends are and they are concerned too. It's has been my understanding that as diabetes negatively impacts the immune response system that exposure to this virus puts a diabetic at greater risk. One friend has not been outside his front door in several weeks as a consequence he is so concerned. If this isn't true then someone needs to reassure people but it seems logical to me that it would be and that a diabetic needs to be cautious. Diabetics almost certainly are slightly more at risk than those without diabetes (or any other conditions) but aren't deemed to be at serious enough risk to be put on the dangerous list alongside those that have had heart attacks or are going through chemotherapy. A good chunk of the population will have some kind of trait that means they might suffer more than someone fit, healthy, and in their twenties. It could be age, or ethnicity, or obesity, or diabetes, or high blood pressure or anything else. If they started listing off every possibly factory, then there might well be only a handful of people left. They're trying to isolate the MOST vulnerable, which isn't to say that those who didn't get a letter aren't vulnerable, they're just not expected to be among the group that suffers from it the most.
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cryrst  The garden of England 03 May 20 10.22pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst I am not diabetic a few of my friends are and they are concerned too. It's has been my understanding that as diabetes negatively impacts the immune response system that exposure to this virus puts a diabetic at greater risk. One friend has not been outside his front door in several weeks as a consequence he is so concerned. If this isn't true then someone needs to reassure people but it seems logical to me that it would be and that a diabetic needs to be cautious. Tbh there is no evidence that controlled diabetics (type 1 on insulin) are immunocompromised as they can control their blood sugar level quite accurately with this. Uncontrolled diabetes is more dangerous due to negative effects of elevated blood sugars on the immune system. Type 2 is more difficult to control so maybe more at risk. This is generally controlled by diet and lifestyle in the early stages, then metaphormine as it progresses. Type 2 sufferers generally dont get a test meter issued so buying one of your own is recommended even after this is over. Hypoglycemia (a low normally type 1s get) can affect the immune system but through a different mechanism.
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