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jamiemartin721  Reading 04 Jul 16 3.51pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes, but more imported cheap labour. I think it depends on how you spend the revenue generated from cheap labour and the profits. For example, if it was used to create a more leisured lifestyle for the average British citizen, then it could be looked at favourabily. I'd be happy to stick with freedom of movement, if for example, it were redistributed and shared among the working poor and unemployed - Or x number of bank holidays, or a four day week etc. The issue was we, the public, got f**k all. We got collared on pensions, public spending cuts, corporation tax cuts, wage freezes, increased utility bills etc... The ideal of freedom of movement, would be that I wouldn't have to work, or only have to work a few days a week - I could live with that!
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 Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 16 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Well I think it should concern you. Your generation has created a rift with the youngest generation of ]voters. Then it says 'well it's their own fault anyway for not voting' when in fact that was untrue. Then it perpetuates the myth. If I were a nipper again that may rather annoy me and drive me away from mainstream politics. And that is not a good place to be, the alternatives tend to involve pain. I am guessing you don't know how strong the feeling runs amongst the 17 to 24 age group which is a group that knows it will end up carrying the can. I await the mass protests. Far from "Carrying the can" the youngsters will actually benefit long after I have gone. Edited by Willo (04 Jul 2016 4.34pm)
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 16 4.36pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I await the mass protests. Far from "Carrying the can" the youngsters will actually benefit long after I have gone. Edited by Willo (04 Jul 2016 4.32pm) Protests in London and York and over four million signed a petition. But it's a good job you know better than they what is right for the young people of our country. By the way, there really is no need to shout Edited by Mapletree (04 Jul 2016 4.36pm)
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jul 16 4.38pm |
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16-17 years olds should be able to vote - 'Old enough to f**k, old enough to vote'. But it would be a bit weird to make an issue of this now, rather than say before the general election, or the one before that. Where were these 'legal challenges' then. Basically, its a political gambit based on exploitation of issues to achieve an undemocratic result. Really, the only way a second referendum should be proposed is via a general election, or evidence of fraud or tampering significant to influence the result (such as postal ballot frauds, dead people voting, ballot box stuffing etc).
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Jul 16 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Far from "Carrying the can" the youngsters will actually benefit long after I have gone. Edited by Willo (04 Jul 2016 4.34pm) Rarely the case. Benefits in society for young people are generally accidental consequences, usually generated by the efforts of a previous younger generation, that have become the new establishment. The 60s, for example, generated a lot of social change. very little of it came from the older generation of the 60s.... The young are the life blood of social change and social justice. Its actually only good for a country when they are 'outraged'.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 16 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Protests in London and York and over four million signed a petition. But it's a good job you know better than they what is right for the young people of our country. By the way, there really is no need to shout Edited by Mapletree (04 Jul 2016 4.36pm) They can protest as much as they like, it won't make a scintilla of difference. And yes I never formed my opinions on membership of the EU on a whim. Finally I wasn't shouting. Don't know why everything went to BOLD - tried to correct it but to no avail.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Jul 16 4.46pm |
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A lot of young people don't really care either way and didn't vote. A lot of young people voted leave. One side of the debate shouldn't characterise a whole group as thinking one way....just as not all older people voted leave.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Jul 16 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A lot of young people don't really care either way and didn't vote. A lot of young people voted leave. One side of the debate shouldn't characterise a whole group as thinking one way....just as not all older people voted leave. Yes, very true. Was just going to post something similar but you beat me to it !
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| Mapletree Croydon 04 Jul 16 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
A lot of young people don't really care either way and didn't vote. A lot of young people voted leave. One side of the debate shouldn't characterise a whole group as thinking one way....just as not all older people voted leave. Did you read the earlier post? They voted as much as anyone else did.
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| Part Time James 04 Jul 16 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Yes, very true. Was just going to post something similar but you beat me to it ! Agreed. I voted Leave, both my parents voted Remain. And they never usually even get off their arse to vote for anything.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jul 16 5.04pm |
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Old enough to see through you.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 04 Jul 16 5.11pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Protests in London and York and over four million signed a petition. But it's a good job you know better than they what is right for the young people of our country. By the way, there really is no need to shout Edited by Mapletree (04 Jul 2016 4.36pm) Are you really still peddling this guff. I mean really? You clearly have little respect for peoples opinion that differs from yours and a lot of age prejudice. Do you want the world run by 16 year olds? Deluded.com
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