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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 11.32am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

If he throws the towel in I expect Labour's popularity to go up a few percent LOL

Another clown like figure caught with his trousers round his ankles like John Major... but at least Prescott and Major didn't get it on with Dianne Abbott....although Edwina Curry was a proper minger!

More high caliber insight.

 

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Hoof Hearted 31 Mar 17 11.36am

Originally posted by nickgusset

More high caliber insight.

Do you mean Calibre?

(yes... for today only I will respond directly as you made me laugh earlier on)

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 11.54am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Do you mean Calibre?

(yes... for today only I will respond directly as you made me laugh earlier on)

Fudding American autocorroct.

If who has shagged who and your own casual misogyny colours your political musings, forgive me if I don't take you too seriously.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Mar 17 12.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Fudding American autocorroct.

If who has shagged who and your own casual misogyny colours your political musings, forgive me if I don't take you too seriously.

The virtue is overpowering.

What an amazing human being you must be.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 31 Mar 17 12.24pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The virtue is overpowering.

What an amazing human being you must be.

Oh hello. Are you going to admit you made a tit of yourself when you thought I was referring to you but it was actually Hoof and you went into meltdown?
An apology would be stretching it.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 31 Mar 17 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Oh hello. Are you going to admit you made a tit of yourself when you thought I was referring to you but it was actually Hoof and you went into meltdown?
An apology would be stretching it.

So yesterday.

 

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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 31 Mar 17 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

"Jeremy Corbyn so unpopular in London that even Labour supporters think he is doing badly"

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the dignified don't even enter in the game

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Apr 17 1.07am

Corbyn gave a great speech to the federation of small businesses recently. Covers a lot and it was well received. However the Express and Telegraph only reported that he refused to answer a question about Syria (he didn't, he said he'd answer it later but wanted questions relevant to the event he was at and his speech).

Now why wouldn't the Express or Telegraph want to report on the speech?


“I want to start by saying thank you. Thank you for inviting me here today and for that introduction.

But, most of all, to thank you all the Federation of Small Businesses for the role you are playing in holding the government to account. Not least in forcing the retreat last month, when, for now at least , they had to drop their 22 percent increase in the National Insurance rate for the self-employed.

You are respected on all sides of politics because you speak with the authority of your members; the sole traders, the entrepreneurs, the small businesses and you are effective, because you reflect the views of those members.

Like the best trade unions, when you say something, people listen and if they don’t? Well, just ask the Chancellor.

Labour does not believe that extra tax burdens should be falling on low and middle income workers, whether self-employed or directly employed.

And we also believe that if we are to restore faith in politics, then politicians have to stick by their word.

That means not breaking a clear manifesto pledge the Conservatives made that they would not increase National Insurance.

The Government’s decision to push a £2 billion tax rise on low and middle-earner self-employed broke that pledge. They hoped no one would notice. Well, we noticed. You noticed.

And what we have also noticed is that, while most of us have had to swallow seven years of austerity, some are being given hand-outs on an extraordinary scale.

George Osborne, and now Philip Hammond, have given the term ‘welfare state’ a whole new meaning - welfare for the wealthiest.

The Tories have cut the corporation tax rate for bigger companies, from 28 per cent in 2010 to 17 per cent by 2020.

Over the six years from 2016 to 2022, the total giveaway, the total revenue lost to the public purse, will be £63.8 billion, according to the government’s own figures.

And let’s be clear, all of that giveaway will go to big companies.

Remember, the corporation tax rate for small companies in 2010 was already, under the previous Labour Government, set at 21 per cent.

That means that by 2020, big companies will have had an 11 percentage point decrease in corporation tax, while the rate for small companies will have been cut by only four percentage points.

And the differential between big and small companies will have been eliminated completely, with both on 17 per cent.

So, there has clearly been a bias here in the approach of the Government.

A bias against small business.

A bias that was evident in the attempt to increase national insurance for the self-employed.

A bias that holds back hard working people who want to make a living independently.

A bias against entrepreneurs who want to start and build new businesses; creating jobs, innovating and helping to make Britain richer. Not for the very rich few, but for the many.

Labour will have a different bias.

Yesterday we reaffirmed our commitment to a Real Living Wage.

Low pay and in-work poverty don’t just hurt those directly affected, they mean more public money going on in-work benefits instead of investing in our future. And they mean fewer pounds going to your businesses.

We know that some of you will struggle to pay your staff more. That’s why we have promised additional support for your businesses, and are looking at expanding and reforming the Employment Allowance.

We will support those striving to make a living through self-employment and in small businesses, not just because it is the right and fair thing to do, but because millions of jobs and the future of our country depends on it.

Labour’s business team, our shadow Business Secretary, Rebecca Long Bailey, and our Shadow Minister for Small Business, Bill Esterson, have been working hard on this.

They, and the Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell, tell me how important their relationship is with you, how valued your voice and insights are.

So, I want to share with you today the approach that will guide our relationship and then explain how I see it working in practice.

Firstly, Labour believes in fair taxation. So our policies will follow two cast-iron principles forged in our values:

Any tax rises will fall most heavily on those with the broadest shoulders and will be a something-for-something deal. When we ask for more contributions we’ll be clear about what you’re getting in return.

Secondly, we want to level the playing field to ensure that no one is being held back due to unfair advantages of the economically and politically powerful using their entrenched positions to hold back the enterprise of others.

And, finally, we will invest to give you the best platform to succeed, with world-leading infrastructure: digital, transport and energy, as well as better access to growth capital, whether it is through loans or equity.

Let me look at those points in more detail.

When I say any tax rises will fall on the broadest shoulders, I want to make it clear today that we will not raise the small business corporation tax rate.

What we cannot accept, however, is that it is right or necessary for big companies to have been given a 40 per cent cut in their corporation tax rate, at a time when others are suffering austerity and the budget deficit remains out of control.

Britain has the lowest corporation tax in the G7, now by quite some distance.

So, corporation tax for bigger companies will move closer to the levels of other major economies.

But it will be a something-for-something deal, we will use that extra revenue to invest in skills.

Employers are telling us that they need a more skilled workforce and that they struggle to recruit.

Which is hardly surprising when, in the last seven years, the further education budget has been cut by one-seventh, or when the adult skills budget has been cut in half

And last year, as student maintenance grants were abolished, university applications fell.

We need a highly skilled workforce, and a state that can re-train and re-skill people as the economy evolves.

That’s why Labour has set out a vision for a National Education Service, from early years to lifelong learning.

Because we know that education matters, whether it’s high quality universal childcare that allows you the time and space to start and develop your business.

Or whether it’s the chance to re-train later in life; opportunity needs to be there for everyone.

And today too many people and too many businesses are being held back by the lack of investment in training.

Which leads me to the second element of our approach, a level playing field.

What people running small businesses tell me is that they are fed up with there being one rule for them and another for big business.

Whether it’s tax avoidance, late payment to suppliers or business rates – giant companies seem to be privileged and sometimes a law unto themselves.

No one likes paying tax. We don’t wake up in the morning thinking, “Oh, I really must pay some more tax today”. But most of us know that taxes are essential to a civilised society and a successful economy.

Business needs skilled workers and good infrastructure. People who run businesses also have families who need the health and caring services their taxes fund.


So most of us play by the rules. We do our tax returns, as you know, mine seems to attract more attention than most but that’s okay, transparency is important.

But some people don’t play by the rules, they use all sorts of elaborate ruses like shell companies or tax havens or offshore trusts to side step the rules.

My local independent coffee shop can’t spend thousands on accountants to avoid paying tax but a big chain of coffee shops can and does.

And small businesses can’t make sweetheart deals with the tax authorities like Google or Vodafone seemingly manage to.

So when we say we will clamp down hard on tax avoidance and legislate to close loopholes, that’s not anti-business, it’s anti-cheating.

So we will give HM Revenue & Customs more powers and more resources and I can announce today we’ll save them one onerous burden, and I hope it’s one you’ll approve of too.

In the budget, the Chancellor bowed to pressure by delaying the implementation of quarterly reporting for small businesses by one year.

That’s not good enough; Labour is against small businesses having to report quarterly. It’s a burden, a distraction, that will hold entrepreneurs back.

Labour will scrap year quarterly reporting for small businesses with a turnover of less than £83,000, to help you focus on growing your business.

And we will tackle another problem that I know is a burning issue and overdue for attention.

Small businesses are owed £26 billion in late payments.

Cash is king for any business and big companies are managing their cash by borrowing – interest free – from their suppliers.

Some of the biggest names in business are holding huge cash piles that don’t actually belong to them.

And I’m going to name some names based on the reports of a reputable credit agency:
Marks and Spencer pays its suppliers 72 days over terms
E.On – the German energy provider, currently pays 78 days over terms
Capita – a major player in the public sector, pays 82 days over terms
Vodafone – 84 days over terms
BT Group – pays 89 days
National Grid – a whopping 119 days
And I could go on.

But note this is ‘over terms’ and the terms they impose could be 45 days or 60 days to start with. So, we’re talking about big companies paying their suppliers, in some cases, six months or more after they have done the work or delivered the goods.

It’s a national scandal.

And it’s not just late payment.

There was also the case of Premier Foods charging companies to be on their supplier list.

And of John Lewis demanding a ‘rebate’ from suppliers when their products sold well, a kind of penalty for success.

And I gather from what you have told me there are many instances of big companies refusing to pay an invoice in full and then saying ‘sue me’ as if small businesses have the time and money to fight legal battles against the commercial giants.

We will look at all of this because late payment and the other practices I’ve mentioned are stopping businesses from growing and causing thousands to go bust every year.

Late payment kills jobs and holds back economic growth.

Bill Esterson has been doggedly pursuing this issue in Parliament and I am keen that we work with you to tackle this issue

There are different options to assess.

Government, through procurement, can ensure that anyone bidding for a contract pays its own suppliers within 30 days. It’s normal now to ask for accounts and credit checks, so this would involve no extra paperwork.

For the private sector, we’ve been looking at the Australian system that involves binding arbitration and fines for persistent late payers.

It needs to be a system with teeth. A system that delivers a fair deal for small suppliers

And we want to work with you to get this right.

No small business owner should have to go begging to the banks, or even re-mortgaging their homes, just because a customer considers themselves too big and too important to pay on time.

But let me send a clear message to the captains of industry today, a Labour Government will declare war on late payment.

Alongside that, Labour will introduce a radical reform of business rates.

The Government’s piecemeal concessions fall far short of what’s needed.

And so, in consultation with business , Labour set out five points that will guide our policies in government:
There will be no “cliff edge” increases in rates and a fair and transparent appeals process.
We will bring forward CPI indexation so that businesses aren’t paying more because of how inflation is measured.
We will exclude new investment in plant and machinery from future business rates valuation. We want to encourage, not discourage, business investment.
We will introduce more regular valuations to stop businesses facing periodic and unmanageable hikes.
Also, we need fundamental reform of the business rates system … to ease the burden on traditional high streets and town centres in the age of online shopping and to create a fairer system of business taxation.
And that brings me to the third theme of our approach to small business namely, investment.

Britain’s infrastructure is second rate and falling even further behind other major economies.

And, frankly, this government has an abysmal record. They have failed to modernise the economy, whether it’s in broadband, energy, transport or housing.

And, at the same time, they have not done enough to finance growth in the small business sector.

That’s why Labour is committed to establishing a National Investment Bank with regional investment banks for every region of England.

This year, the Welsh Labour government is creating the Development Bank for Wales.

Its purpose will be to create and safeguard over 5,500 jobs a year by 2022 by providing more than £1 billion of investment support to Welsh business over that period.

This has not come out of the blue. Labour in Wales has nearly two decades’ experience of working with the FSB and other business organisations.

It has taken on board your feedback about the forerunner to the development bank, Finance Wales.

And my business team at Westminster will take a keen interest in the launch of the Development Bank for Wales, and the work it does to generate growth and jobs.

The prime minister regularly accuses me of wanting to bankrupt Britain by borrowing money to fund investment.

But as every businessperson knows there is a world of difference between borrowing for capital spending and borrowing to fund the payroll and day to day trading or service delivery.

The risk of bankruptcy comes not when you borrow to invest in projects that will deliver growth but when you give unfair tax breaks to big companies and the wealthy, when you have a big deficit and not enough money to run public services.

Labour’s vision is of a richer Britain, a Britain in which hard working people are not held back.

Britain has more than five million small to medium sized businesses employing more than 15 million people; sixty per cent of the private sector workforce.

Labour is committed to creating an environment in which you can grow, through fair taxation, tough action to level the playing field, including on late payment, and through investment in skills and infrastructure.

The only thing we ask of you, as part of this deal, is social responsibility in the way you operate. Fairness in employment, attention to health and safety, safeguards for the environment, high service and product standards for your consumers.

The economy under the Conservatives is being held back by low investment, low skills, low productivity and low wages.

They believe the way for Britain to succeed is to win the race to the bottom. To become a tax dodgers’ paradise, content with rising poverty, falling social mobility and the next generation worse off than the last. It’s gone too far.

A productive economy requires government to have a partnership with business. Building the platform for you to succeed. While guaranteeing fairness for all.

This is a virtuous circle; good investment by government, good practice by business, good public services, funded by a productive, growing economy with fair taxation.

Your businesses suffer when public services are in crisis.

When people have to take time off to care for ill or elderly relatives, because social care is in crisis.

When people are in too much pain to work, but still waiting for an operation.

When our schools and colleges aren’t delivering enough skilled workers.

I’ve set out Labour’s three principles; fair taxation, a level playing field and investment.

And I want to add one final principle, to listen and engage with people like you, the experts in their area.

I think we need more experts, not fewer, informing our policy and politics.

I started by saying that I saw the FSB as a trade union; standing up for your members.

The Party I lead, the Labour Party, is as the name suggests, a party of workers. But we’re also the party of co-operatives, of entrepreneurs, of owner managers who work hard in their businesses.

And that’s why it’s been a privilege to address you today.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 13 Apr 17 6.01am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Theresa May has 37 point lead over Jezza in latest poll:

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"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Apr 17 8.04am

As the form on here now seems to be to post very long transcripts of speeches and articles, here is an edited version of a Grauniad article:
Peter Taaffe, the veteran leader of Militant (now renamed the Socialist Party of England and Wales) expects to be readmitted to Labour by Jeremy Corbyn.
He said Corbyn would continue to open up Labour “to all strands of socialist and working-class opinion” and reject control by a “top-down, centralised elite”. He added: “The lava of this revolution is still hot.”
The Socialist party’s website reports that members have attended a number of rallies and meetings of Momentum, the grassroots movement set up to back Corbyn. Taaffe said his colleagues had received a warm welcome from some in Labour. “People say: you were a long time gone, welcome back.”
He said: “I know Jeremy, he’s a good bloke. He’s principled. He’s on the left.”
The Socialist party published an editorial on Tuesday which argued for a Labour split, even if it meant Labour was left with just 20 MPs. “The civil war, now it is out in the open, cannot be simply called off,” the editorial said.
“The worst response to Jeremy’s re-election would be to attempt to make peace with the Blairites. Many Labour supporters will fear that a split would weaken the Labour party. In fact the opposite would be the case.
“True a Blairite split away would, at least initially, dramatically decrease the number of Labour MPs in Westminster. But a group of 40, or even 20 or 30, MPs who consistently campaigned against austerity and defended workers in struggle would do far more to strengthen the fightback against the Tories than 232 ‘Labour’ MPs, a majority who vote for austerity, privatisation and war.”
He hit back against the deputy leader Tom Watson’s claims that “Trotskyist entryists” were infiltrating Labour, saying: “I’m not sure whether Tom Watson was active in the Labour party when we were. He’s referring to entryists, but we were not entryists, we were born in the Labour party, and we were expelled because we fought Thatcher in Liverpool and defeated her.”
Instead, he said MPs who backed Tony Blair – who won three successive general elections for Labour – were “Tory entryists into the Labour party”.
He said he saw Corbyn’s leadership, and the rapid increase in the size of the Labour party, as part of a global phenomenon that could not be halted by opposition among Labour MPs. “Nothing they can do will stop the winds of history as they’re developing at the moment.”
On Tuesday Corbyn’s campaign team condemned Watson for “peddling conspiracy theories” after he warned of “old hands twisting young arms” to shore up support for Corbyn.
Taaffe rejected the idea that Socialist party members were only interested in promulgating political revolution rather than winning parliamentary representation.
He pointed out that Militant had stood candidates in a number of elections, and its successor organisations had continued to do so, adding that the route to progress for the working classes was “not exclusively on the streets, or the industrial struggle – the parliamentary struggle is crucial”.
Taaffe’s intervention will alarm many in Labour who fear that veterans of struggles to deselect sitting MPs regarded as on the right of the party in the 1980s have been emboldened by Corbyn’s decision to shift Labour decisively to the left.
Corbyn’s allies have said they want to “circle the wagons” if, as expected, he wins re-election, and tempt back some of the Labour MPs who resigned from his shadow cabinet.
But Taaffe said he should resist the temptation to compromise on his commitment to anti-austerity policies. “The big mistake for Jeremy Corbyn would be to seek peace with these people,” he said.
“Jeremy Corbyn has said austerity is a political choice, not a necessity.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Apr 17 8.16am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Theresa May has 37 point lead over Jezza in latest poll:

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Labour moderates react:

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