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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.27pm
Originally posted by the silurian But the ones so far prosecuted and threatened with deportation (although still walking the streets of Rochdale) were/are 99% of pakistani descent, why are you so afraid of saying so?? Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.57am) Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.58am) I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved. Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.27pm

Originally posted by the silurian

But the ones so far prosecuted and threatened with deportation (although still walking the streets of Rochdale) were/are 99% of pakistani descent, why are you so afraid of saying so??

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.57am)

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.58am)

I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved.

Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 23 Apr 21 3.48pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved. Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way. Because those arrested and prosecuted were of pakistani origin. Doesn’t describing them as Asian offend a larger percentage of the population since it includes people who had nothing to do with these cases?
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Teddy Eagle

23 Apr 21 3.48pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved.

Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way.

Because those arrested and prosecuted were of pakistani origin. Doesn’t describing them as Asian offend a larger percentage of the population since it includes people who had nothing to do with these cases?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.54pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle And what are the outcomes? That pakistani men stop gang raping children, right? The outcomes are that criminals are detected and the threats they represent removed, that others are discouraged from attempting anything similar and that the next generations educated to understand and accept our standards. In so doing the ultimate outcome of a safe environment for everyone, including the children, becomes more accessible. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.54pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

And what are the outcomes?

That pakistani men stop gang raping children, right?

The outcomes are that criminals are detected and the threats they represent removed, that others are discouraged from attempting anything similar and that the next generations educated to understand and accept our standards.

In so doing the ultimate outcome of a safe environment for everyone, including the children, becomes more accessible.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 3.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved. Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way. May not help anyone BUT in the main they are/were of pakistani origin.....what should we do , describe them as humans...would that be OK?? you refered to them as p*** earlier, how does that help?? Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 4.04pm)
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The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 3.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not afraid of anything! I don't though like inaccuracies, especially when they have the capacity to hurt the victims of the criminals involved.

Why does describing them as "pakistani" help anyone? Let's try to get the huge majority of those in that community who are decent hard-working citizens on our side and not ostracise them in this way.

May not help anyone BUT in the main they are/were of pakistani origin.....what should we do , describe them as humans...would that be OK??
you refered to them as p*** earlier, how does that help??

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 4.04pm)

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 4.02pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle The prosecutions have been happening for some time. Maybe under the radar at first, but they were there. Read what I wrote. I said that there were undertones of "****-bashing". Not that there is any. Just the aroma. The sense that it is still present in some minds. Maybe your nose isn't as sensitive as mine! Oh I see, you know what I and many others think and because it doesnt agree with your pro pakistani outlook you play the race card......whatever you think most of them were pakistani
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The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 4.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The prosecutions have been happening for some time. Maybe under the radar at first, but they were there.

Read what I wrote. I said that there were undertones of "****-bashing". Not that there is any. Just the aroma. The sense that it is still present in some minds. Maybe your nose isn't as sensitive as mine!

Oh I see, you know what I and many others think and because it doesnt agree with your pro pakistani outlook you play the race card......whatever you think most of them were pakistani

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.10pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Surely the main concern is that for years the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic rape of vulnerable young WHITE girls for the sake of racial harmony. That seems to be a common perception on here and amongst readers of the Sun, Mail and Express. Is it true though? I seriously doubt it is. There were some policing failures, that much has been established, but a deliberate policy of turning a blind eye to the rape of vulnerable children? I suspect it was very much more likely that the scale of the problem was not understood and the resources needed to deal with it unavailable. Promoting racial harmony is a key component to achieving a long term solution so must be part of the strategy but never at the cost of stopping this kind of criminal activity. I cannot believe that any such idea would ever gain traction at any official level. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.10pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Surely the main concern is that for years the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic rape of vulnerable young WHITE girls for the sake of racial harmony.

That seems to be a common perception on here and amongst readers of the Sun, Mail and Express.

Is it true though? I seriously doubt it is. There were some policing failures, that much has been established, but a deliberate policy of turning a blind eye to the rape of vulnerable children?

I suspect it was very much more likely that the scale of the problem was not understood and the resources needed to deal with it unavailable.

Promoting racial harmony is a key component to achieving a long term solution so must be part of the strategy but never at the cost of stopping this kind of criminal activity. I cannot believe that any such idea would ever gain traction at any official level.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.15pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Your dancing on a pin head mate. If Tommy Robinson calls them pakistani you shout racist but you then go on to say " great deal of truth and common sense." Whist also calling them pakistani, When some else makes the same point. Your a hypocrite Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.19pm) I haven't called Yaxley-Lennon a racist! He may well be but whether he is or not isn't relevant to this. The lady writing the piece said many things that make sense. Even in the context of her use of "pakistani". There is no hypocrisy in understanding that context matters. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.15pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Your dancing on a pin head mate. If Tommy Robinson calls them pakistani you shout racist but you then go on to say "
great deal of truth and common sense." Whist also calling them pakistani, When some else makes the same point.

Your a hypocrite

Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.19pm)

I haven't called Yaxley-Lennon a racist! He may well be but whether he is or not isn't relevant to this.

The lady writing the piece said many things that make sense. Even in the context of her use of "pakistani".

There is no hypocrisy in understanding that context matters.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 23 Apr 21 4.16pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle That seems to be a common perception on here and amongst readers of the Sun, Mail and Express. Is it true though? I seriously doubt it is. There were some policing failures, that much has been established, but a deliberate policy of turning a blind eye to the rape of vulnerable children? I suspect it was very much more likely that the scale of the problem was not understood and the resources needed to deal with it unavailable. Promoting racial harmony is a key component to achieving a long term solution so must be part of the strategy but never at the cost of stopping this kind of criminal activity. I cannot believe that any such idea would ever gain traction at any official level. Then why the apology? [Link]
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Teddy Eagle

23 Apr 21 4.16pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That seems to be a common perception on here and amongst readers of the Sun, Mail and Express.

Is it true though? I seriously doubt it is. There were some policing failures, that much has been established, but a deliberate policy of turning a blind eye to the rape of vulnerable children?

I suspect it was very much more likely that the scale of the problem was not understood and the resources needed to deal with it unavailable.

Then why the apology?

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.20pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 So we can have different communities but we cant say pakistani communities. Your a joke. Did you work as a civil servant by any chance? Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.20pm) Of course you can have pakistani communities. There are times when such a description is useful. It's not when only a tiny proportion of a community are, in fact, criminals. All criminals need to be banded together as the lawbreakers they are. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.20pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

So we can have different communities but we cant say pakistani communities.
Your a joke.
Did you work as a civil servant by any chance?

Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.20pm)

Of course you can have pakistani communities. There are times when such a description is useful.

It's not when only a tiny proportion of a community are, in fact, criminals. All criminals need to be banded together as the lawbreakers they are.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.27pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Because those arrested and prosecuted were of pakistani origin. Doesn’t describing them as Asian offend a larger percentage of the population since it includes people who had nothing to do with these cases? It might if they had not already been repeatedly described as "pakistani". Most other Asians wouldn't feel targetted at all. It is simply a slightly less specific term which might help the decent members of the pakistani community not to feel they are being attacked. Still superfluous though. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 4.27pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It might if they had not already been repeatedly described as "pakistani". Most other Asians wouldn't feel targetted at all. It is simply a slightly less specific term which might help the decent members of the pakistani community not to feel they are being attacked. Still superfluous though.

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dannyboy1978 23 Apr 21 4.30pm
So wissi, how would you describe "people from that community " if they happen to be at the cricket watching pakistan vs England waving the pakistan flag. Are they just Asians? From what I am seeing in your opinions is that you are reluctant to admit the heritage of these people through wanting to be politically correct. And what you need to understand is that lot of people are really offended by your views. I personally think you are sick in the head and thats putting it politely.
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dannyboy1978

23 Apr 21 4.30pm

So wissi, how would you describe "people from that community " if they happen to be at the cricket watching pakistan vs England waving the pakistan flag.
Are they just Asians?

From what I am seeing in your opinions is that you are reluctant to admit the heritage of these people through wanting to be politically correct.
And what you need to understand is that lot of people are really offended by your views. I personally think you are sick in the head and thats putting it politely.

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Teddy Eagle 23 Apr 21 4.37pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle It might if they had not already been repeatedly described as "pakistani". Most other Asians wouldn't feel targetted at all. It is simply a slightly less specific term which might help the decent members of the pakistani community not to feel they are being attacked. Still superfluous though. But those charged were of pakistani origin. Are you saying that other members of that community are so offended by that fact being mentioned that they collectively decide to ignore abuse if they know it’s happening?
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Teddy Eagle

23 Apr 21 4.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

But those charged were of pakistani origin. Are you saying that other members of that community are so offended by that fact being mentioned that they collectively decide to ignore abuse if they know it’s happening?

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