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Coutts VS Nigel Farage
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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 23 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by Mattconrov
Farage did everyone a favour by using his platform to shine a light on these bank cancellation. Of course he used his fame and platform for his own good. Who wouldn't. Plus it was his fame and platform that got him cancelled in the first place. I'm not quite sure where Farage has been hypocritical. I can give one example where during "covid" he was. Farage wanted the war criminal Tony Blair to head up the taskforce for the experimental covid jab. Then shortly after started calling out against mandates and lockdowns, questioning the official narrative. That's an example of hypocrisy I think. Do you Mr Wisbech have a specific one? Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 3.55pm) Edited by Mattconrov (28 Jul 2023 3.56pm) He has shone a light on himself. See my previous response for examples of hypocrisy.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 23 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I am pretty sure yes Wisbech. I'm also pretty sure that what people say in public is not necessarily what they really think. Because of the culture that you endorse, they are afraid to speak out. Most people agree with Farage on one thing! That Brexit has failed! On his politics I very much doubt it, seeing as they are inextricably linked to Brexit and anti-EU sentiment.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 23 10.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Don't be ridiculous. His price for speaking publicly is to have his bank account closed. You call that speaking freely? You have proved once and for all that you are of the kind that darkens our society, not Farage. Defending the behaviour of Coutts makes you an enemy of freedom. You are very confused. He is making a song and dance out of the closure and doing it on many stages. It’s given him volumes to speak about. Probably when he has half a dozen other bank accounts and several wallets full of credit cards. Neither he or you have been “shut up”. Quite the reverse. He lost a bank account. Big deal.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 28 Jul 23 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What kind of society will we have if we just cancel the bank accounts of people we don't like. Get a grip. That was some time ago, no point engaging on bizarre attention seeking opinions, when there is an error of fact or mega hypocrisy I may bother to comment, doubt it it will be long to wait
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Teddy Eagle  28 Jul 23 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Farage positions himself as a champion of the common man. He isn’t. He is a toff. A privately educated man who enjoyed a lucrative career in the city before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and turning to politics. He has repeatedly referred to “all the others” affected, without having any idea of either the numbers, or the reasons. However, many thousands of British citizens living in EU countries, had their UK bank accounts withdrawn as a direct consequence of Brexit. Something he was the primary architect of. Did he speak up for them back then? Does he mention them now? No. He is a hypocrite. Prior to Brexit he railed against the EU, and especially its Parliament whilst taking a big salary from the EU Parliament and now getting a pension from it, which is paid for from the settlement we had to agree to. Hypocrite. He also has 2 children who hold German passports. His children hold both German and British passports. Since their mother is German then why shouldn't they?
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| HKOwen Hong Kong 28 Jul 23 10.52pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Farage positions himself as a champion of the common man. He isn’t. He is a toff. A privately educated man who enjoyed a lucrative career in the city before becoming obsessed with our EU membership and turning to politics. He has repeatedly referred to “all the others” affected, without having any idea of either the numbers, or the reasons. However, many thousands of British citizens living in EU countries, had their UK bank accounts withdrawn as a direct consequence of Brexit. Something he was the primary architect of. Did he speak up for them back then? Does he mention them now? No. He is a hypocrite. Prior to Brexit he railed against the EU, and especially its Parliament whilst taking a big salary from the EU Parliament and now getting a pension from it, which is paid for from the settlement we had to agree to. Hypocrite. He also has 2 children who hold German passports. I will always support your right to voice your opinions, be they risible, factually incorrect or just plain bizarre and attention seeking, I will always support your right to voice them. As I have seen no posts from you that are not in the categories mentioned I am unsure if my view would change were you to post any Edited by HKOwen (28 Jul 2023 10.55pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 23 11.40pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
His children hold both German and British passports. Since their mother is German then why shouldn't they? No reason at all, but if you listen to him pontificate on all things EU you would think he didn’t agree.
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| Teddy Eagle 28 Jul 23 11.46pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No reason at all, but if you listen to him pontificate on all things EU you would think he didn’t agree. Maybe he's not the xenophobic racist he's made out to be and his opposition to the EU doesn't affect his opinion of the countries within it.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 28 Jul 23 11.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are very confused. He is making a song and dance out of the closure and doing it on many stages. It’s given him volumes to speak about. Probably when he has half a dozen other bank accounts and several wallets full of credit cards. Neither he or you have been “shut up”. Quite the reverse. He lost a bank account. Big deal. But it’s not so much the what he lost but the why. Not because of any suggestion of Financial Crime of any kind. But because of his publicly known views and that’s where the Freedom of Speech argument comes in. You let yourself down in making assumptions “ he probably has half a dozen other accounts “ in the same way that you did with me and my Coutts relationship. Ultimately I think your dislike for NF is preventing you from clearly seeing what the majority sees and the resultant outcome. Anyway, I see little point in my continuing in this thread as neither your opinion or mind is going to change
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 28 Jul 23 11.58pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I will always support your right to voice your opinions, be they risible, factually incorrect or just plain bizarre and attention seeking, I will always support your right to voice them. As I have seen no posts from you that are not in the categories mentioned I am unsure if my view would change were you to post any Edited by HKOwen (28 Jul 2023 10.55pm) Excuse me for asking but what does that response have to do with the subject? You never engage in any kind of rational debate. Instead you seem obsessed with delivering insults, rather than in any kind of exchange of view. I have already given you far more attention than you deserve.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 12.07am |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
But it’s not so much the what he lost but the why. Not because of any suggestion of Financial Crime of any kind. But because of his publicly known views and that’s where the Freedom of Speech argument comes in. You let yourself down in making assumptions “ he probably has half a dozen other accounts “ in the same way that you did with me and my Coutts relationship. Ultimately I think your dislike for NF is preventing you from clearly seeing what the majority sees and the resultant outcome. Anyway, I see little point in my continuing in this thread as neither your opinion or mind is going to change There is no valid freedom of speech argument from Farage! It’s an entirely spurious invention by Farage which unfortunately has been swallowed by those in government who ought to know better. I have little doubt that on reflection that will be quietly dropped. He is, has been and always will be able to freely express his views. That in doing so he creates controversy that is, in turn, seen by a bank to potentially be capable of damaging their reputation is a completely separate issue. The first is his right. The second is theirs. Both must be honoured but only their’s is under any threat. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (29 Jul 2023 7.19pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jul 23 12.12am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Maybe he's not the xenophobic racist he's made out to be and his opposition to the EU doesn't affect his opinion of the countries within it. I don’t think he is a xenophobic racist on a personal level. I think he courts xenophobic racists with his rhetoric and propaganda.
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