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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jan 22 8.43pm
A different stitch-up to the expected one, questionable policing and perverse politics are where we are. Most things look pretty rotten in the UK.
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Croydon 28 Jan 22 8.43pm

A different stitch-up to the expected one, questionable policing and perverse politics are where we are.

Most things look pretty rotten in the UK.

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Grumbles 28 Jan 22 8.53pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 A different stitch-up to the expected one, questionable policing and perverse politics are where we are. Most things look pretty rotten in the UK. For many in authority in the UK it is now power for power's sake, nothing else matters.
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Grumbles 28 Jan 22 8.53pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A different stitch-up to the expected one, questionable policing and perverse politics are where we are.

Most things look pretty rotten in the UK.

For many in authority in the UK it is now power for power's sake, nothing else matters.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 22 9.58pm
Originally posted by cryrst It's how it works. If this was labour it would be the same. So you don"t pin any blame on the leader- just because a different leader might be just as bad?The leader just loves your sort, you could go out and get your head kicked in,say in manchester, get up and say-" but if i went out in Glasgow I might have been killed!"
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Any european country i fancy! 28 Jan 22 9.58pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It's how it works.
If this was labour it would be the same.

So you don"t pin any blame on the leader- just because a different leader might be just as bad?The leader just loves your sort, you could go out and get your head kicked in,say in manchester, get up and say-" but if i went out in Glasgow I might have been killed!"

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 29 Jan 22 8.48am
run away, run away,... [Link] "Boris Johnson will telephone Russian President Vladimir Putin and visit Eastern Europe in the coming days as the UK steps up its diplomatic efforts to resolve the Ukraine border crisis." It's going to be safer for Boris in Ukraine I disengage, I turn the page.
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"Boris Johnson will telephone Russian President Vladimir Putin and visit Eastern Europe in the coming days as the UK steps up its diplomatic efforts to resolve the Ukraine border crisis."

It's going to be safer for Boris in Ukraine

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Matov 29 Jan 22 1.44pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly run away, run away,... [Link] "Boris Johnson will telephone Russian President Vladimir Putin and visit Eastern Europe in the coming days as the UK steps up its diplomatic efforts to resolve the Ukraine border crisis." It's going to be safer for Boris in Ukraine And more proof, if any needed, about the hype and hysteria around this 'crisis' is all about diverting attention from domestic politics. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

29 Jan 22 1.44pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

run away, run away,...

[Link]
"Boris Johnson will telephone Russian President Vladimir Putin and visit Eastern Europe in the coming days as the UK steps up its diplomatic efforts to resolve the Ukraine border crisis."

It's going to be safer for Boris in Ukraine

And more proof, if any needed, about the hype and hysteria around this 'crisis' is all about diverting attention from domestic politics.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 Jan 22 10.23pm
Cressida Dick has managed to pi55 off all sides with her politicking. Her handling of Extinction Rebellion, BLM protests, the terrible murder of Sarah Everard etc etc, the failure to deal with a culture of unacceptable behaviour in a minority of the Met, and now this Partygate issue. How much more clear does it need to be that she is not fit to be running the Met and a new broom is needed. Edited by HKOwen (29 Jan 2022 10.23pm) Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 29 Jan 22 10.23pm

Cressida Dick has managed to pi55 off all sides with her politicking.

Her handling of Extinction Rebellion, BLM protests, the terrible murder of Sarah Everard etc etc, the failure to deal with a culture of unacceptable behaviour in a minority of the Met, and now this Partygate issue.

How much more clear does it need to be that she is not fit to be running the Met and a new broom is needed.

Edited by HKOwen (29 Jan 2022 10.23pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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The Dolphin 29 Jan 22 10.54pm
With the Met now involved as well our Country has lost its perspective. Was there a party - yes. Did they do wrong - yes. So much work and time and money going into this in the real world is madness., And all because of a rabid left wing media and a useless opposition. They are literally worse than Boris.
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The Dolphin

29 Jan 22 10.54pm

With the Met now involved as well our Country has lost its perspective.
Was there a party - yes. Did they do wrong - yes.
So much work and time and money going into this in the real world is madness.,
And all because of a rabid left wing media and a useless opposition.
They are literally worse than Boris.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 22 11.24pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin With the Met now involved as well our Country has lost its perspective. Was there a party - yes. Did they do wrong - yes. So much work and time and money going into this in the real world is madness., And all because of a rabid left wing media and a useless opposition. They are literally worse than Boris. What has it got to do with the media (leaving aside the "left wing" nonsensical slur)? They are only reporting the events. The opposition may well be useless, but the government are presenting an open goal every 10 minutes. If Palace played as badly Truro City reserves would beat them. Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined. They may have been small transgressions, unimportant if held by anyone outside of government. But held at the centre of government, in the way, and at the time, they were, means their significance is far greater than the events themselves. Anyone with an ounce of decency would have fallen on their sword a long time ago. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Jan 22 11.24pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

What has it got to do with the media (leaving aside the "left wing" nonsensical slur)? They are only reporting the events.

The opposition may well be useless, but the government are presenting an open goal every 10 minutes. If Palace played as badly Truro City reserves would beat them.

Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined.

They may have been small transgressions, unimportant if held by anyone outside of government. But held at the centre of government, in the way, and at the time, they were, means their significance is far greater than the events themselves.

Anyone with an ounce of decency would have fallen on their sword a long time ago.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 30 Jan 22 6.16am
Originally posted by HKOwen Cressida Dick has managed to pi55 off all sides with her politicking. Her handling of Extinction Rebellion, BLM protests, the terrible murder of Sarah Everard etc etc, the failure to deal with a culture of unacceptable behaviour in a minority of the Met, and now this Partygate issue. How much more clear does it need to be that she is not fit to be running the Met and a new broom is needed. Edited by HKOwen (29 Jan 2022 10.23pm) I don't blame her for Everard but 100 agree that she should have been replaced a long time ago. Put there by a conservative home secretary and was awful from the start. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

30 Jan 22 6.16am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Cressida Dick has managed to pi55 off all sides with her politicking.

How much more clear does it need to be that she is not fit to be running the Met and a new broom is needed.

Edited by HKOwen (29 Jan 2022 10.23pm)

I don't blame her for Everard but 100 agree that she should have been replaced a long time ago. Put there by a conservative home secretary and was awful from the start.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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georgenorman 30 Jan 22 8.25am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined. Good luck with that. Anyone who thinks there has ever been, or ever will be, integrity and honesty in politics, needs their head examined (and their eyesight and hearing.)
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georgenorman

30 Jan 22 8.25am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined.

Good luck with that. Anyone who thinks there has ever been, or ever will be, integrity and honesty in politics, needs their head examined (and their eyesight and hearing.)

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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Jan 22 9.15am
Originally posted by The Dolphin With the Met now involved as well our Country has lost its perspective. Was there a party - yes. Did they do wrong - yes. So much work and time and money going into this in the real world is madness., And all because of a rabid left wing media and a useless opposition. They are literally worse than Boris. The report is a political matter about the integrity of the PM and others, fine so be it I don't care but others do. As for the police criminal investigation: My understanding is that if anyone is guilty they will face a £100 fine and no criminal record it is the equivalent of a speeding fine. From a legal point of view it is no big deal, from a political point of view that is entirely different matter. So why on earth are the police treating this as a major crime scene. Dickless should have told Sue Gray to go ahead and publish her report in full the police would then interview and fine any named culprits. We are not talking about derailing a murder enquiry. Edited by Badger11 (30 Jan 2022 9.16am) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 30 Jan 22 9.15am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

The report is a political matter about the integrity of the PM and others, fine so be it I don't care but others do. As for the police criminal investigation:

My understanding is that if anyone is guilty they will face a £100 fine and no criminal record it is the equivalent of a speeding fine. From a legal point of view it is no big deal, from a political point of view that is entirely different matter.

So why on earth are the police treating this as a major crime scene. Dickless should have told Sue Gray to go ahead and publish her report in full the police would then interview and fine any named culprits.

We are not talking about derailing a murder enquiry.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Jan 2022 9.16am)

One more point

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The Dolphin 30 Jan 22 9.55am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What has it got to do with the media (leaving aside the "left wing" nonsensical slur)? They are only reporting the events. The opposition may well be useless, but the government are presenting an open goal every 10 minutes. If Palace played as badly Truro City reserves would beat them. Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined. They may have been small transgressions, unimportant if held by anyone outside of government. But held at the centre of government, in the way, and at the time, they were, means their significance is far greater than the events themselves. Anyone with an ounce of decency would have fallen on their sword a long time ago. If you call the incessant slavering frenzy of the last few weeks "reporting" then I worry for you. Similarly, if you do not think there is a generally left wing bias to the media then we agree to disagree.
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The Dolphin

30 Jan 22 9.55am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What has it got to do with the media (leaving aside the "left wing" nonsensical slur)? They are only reporting the events.

The opposition may well be useless, but the government are presenting an open goal every 10 minutes. If Palace played as badly Truro City reserves would beat them.

Anyone who cannot see that we need to ensure integrity and honesty in politics if we are to ensure it in our society in general, needs their head examined.

Anyone with an ounce of decency would have fallen on their sword a long time ago.

If you call the incessant slavering frenzy of the last few weeks "reporting" then I worry for you.
Similarly, if you do not think there is a generally left wing bias to the media then we agree to disagree.

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