There is a bigger issue with the Roy IN brigade. If Mr Parish can not hold Roy accountable to team results, the moral hazard trickles down to the players were Roy can not hold the players accountable to game results. As a businessman SP should be aware of this fact.

We are nearer to a European place than relegation, just saying

No but its his dire tactics that put an already terrible defence under massive pressure every game by having such a horrible negative setup. Fair enough there are some horrible lazy b******s in that team ut they're probably sick of being forced to play such boring s***e.

There are defensive midfielders who play by themselves in a 2 central midfielders system, next to a much more offensive players. In the early 2000s Makelele played alone at Real Madrid next to Zidane, while they also had 2 more players up front. Edgar Davids, Deschamps, Dunga, the best defensive midfielders in the last 30 years have also played like that.

Maybe if Riedewald and Milivojevic aren't fast enough they should think twice if they should be football players.

Yes, I think Roy opts to play anti-football, and as a result once we are two down today we were never, ever coming back. I would go further and say that Roy can't do anything above and beyond playing anti-football - it is the limit of his capabilities.

The difference perhaps between us is that I get why anti-football is the best bet for Palace to stay up, and in staying up, to achieve the bigger-picture aims the club has.

I don't like this version of 'football', or enjoy it, but I try to avoid blaming the manager for either the small details (like the individual errors today) or the big picture (i.e the clubs place in the economic pecking order). I hold him responsible for the number of points we get against the value of squad we have, and when I do that I can only conclude that his continued employment, however dispiriting, makes sense.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (13 Feb 2021 5.25pm)

The players no longer need to impress Roy - he plays them regardless!

We need something different in midfield and yet he plays Kouyate in defence over Kelly/Cahill. We’re crying out for width and crosses into the box and yet he plays a lefty on the right and a righty on the left. He sticks with Two DM when we need to chase the game and create something. No reaction in substitutions until it’s to flipping late.
HE CONTINUES TO DO THIS WEEK AFTER WEEK!

Now is the time for a new man to come in - there will never be a better opportunity to assess the squad and decide what changes need to be made. You never know it may even light a fire under those that are too comfortable!