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 silvertop  Portishead 08 Feb 21 10.39am |
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Originally posted by corkery
The Downing St declaration means it's up to the people in NI. This generation will need to die before any referendum. Nobody wants Northern Ireland anyway. British and Irish people both claim to love the place, sing songs about the place but it's a black hole for money. Regardless of what side you're on (I'm on neither). The main thing is peace there. Edited by corkery (04 Feb 2021 7.25pm) That's funny and little known. I have been there many times (did little more than drink heavily) and kept well away from sectarian pish. However, take a trip across the border and the Irish - no fools - are aware that it is a tinder box and wouldn't touch the place with a mile long pole. They may sing songs about the 6 counties, but would not actually want to rule them. Take a trip across the Irish Sea and, if you take out West Scottish Rangers supporters and the hard line Tory right, there is a sizeable chunk of the British population who would happily see the whole island toed into the mid Atlantic.
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| silvertop Portishead 08 Feb 21 10.40am |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Mary Lou Mcdonald was on form today, she said the D.U.P wanted brexit, signed up to it, now the real;ity of it has hit they have to take the consequences, true enough, dont get what you shouted for, then try and change it when you have it. By way of balance, she also came clean that the EU f****d up. Which it did.
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| silvertop Portishead 08 Feb 21 10.45am |
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Originally posted by chris123
Maybe they should think of a third option, an independent NI. I worked for DuPont in the 1980's and they had a plant in Maydown. A subsidiary was Conoco and I also worked in Aberdeen. At the time there was more nationalism in the North than in NE Scotland. You might want to read your Irish history on that. NI had self rule for decades leading yup top (and causing) the Troubles. The protestant majority misruled to such an extent that Britain ultimately gave up and sent in the troops. Nothing has changed to suggest it would be any different if we tried that again. Just look at the DUP today.
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Teddy Eagle  08 Feb 21 10.59am |
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Another tranche of shops closed and 2,450 jobs lost, not including the support workers.
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| chris123 hove actually 08 Feb 21 11.08am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
You might want to read your Irish history on that. NI had self rule for decades leading yup top (and causing) the Troubles. The protestant majority misruled to such an extent that Britain ultimately gave up and sent in the troops. Nothing has changed to suggest it would be any different if we tried that again. Just look at the DUP today. I was reflecting on what I saw in the eighties - no more. The were more Tory MPs than SNP.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 08 Feb 21 11.09am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Another tranche of shops closed and 2,450 jobs lost, not including the support workers. Awful chain of shops and have been for years. The High Street is dead, so you can blame Brexit, you can blame Covid, but at the end of the day the writing was on the wall for these shops a long time ago.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 08 Feb 21 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
By way of balance, she also came clean that the EU f****d up. Which it did. Yes, she talks a lot of sense. The E.U did a major fcuk up- they might have been taking lessons from the CONservatives ever since this corona virus began, at least they admitted the mistake and did a u turn in a few hours, unlike trying to dazzle the electorate with "world beating" nonsense, hanging it out with lies, then folding when the truth is out and media pressure makes them capitulate!
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 10 Feb 21 11.11pm |
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‘Speaking to lawmakers on Tuesday, Gove said the part of the Brexit deal covering Northern Ireland wasn’t working, and called for a reset in the EU’s relationship with Britain.‘ So now we want what took 4 years to devise and agree to be amended, to be more like what went before? i.e the common market. Ridiculous. This is starting to turn into a s*** show. What exactly is the incentive for the EU to renegotiate? Because from what I can read it’s only the UK that is really getting impacted by any of this. It’s just as well we’re all locked down because if the music industry was functioning there would be hell to pay. Essentially, musicians can’t tour Europe due to the agreement and particulars re. Visas. No gigs. No festivals. No income. That’s another massive cock up to add to the e-commerce export situation. JD just announced they would be creating a 1000 staffed distribution centre in Europe to get around the problem of exporting. Big companies will be fine, albeit taking money and jobs away from the UK and over to the EU - SMEs are screwed. Edited by SW19 CPFC (10 Feb 2021 11.12pm)
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BlueJay  UK 11 Feb 21 12.21am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
‘Speaking to lawmakers on Tuesday, Gove said the part of the Brexit deal covering Northern Ireland wasn’t working, and called for a reset in the EU’s relationship with Britain.‘ So now we want what took 4 years to devise and agree to be amended, to be more like what went before? i.e the common market. Ridiculous. This is starting to turn into a s*** show. What exactly is the incentive for the EU to renegotiate? Because from what I can read it’s only the UK that is really getting impacted by any of this. It’s just as well we’re all locked down because if the music industry was functioning there would be hell to pay. Essentially, musicians can’t tour Europe due to the agreement and particulars re. Visas. No gigs. No festivals. No income. That’s another massive cock up to add to the e-commerce export situation. JD just announced they would be creating a 1000 staffed distribution centre in Europe to get around the problem of exporting. Big companies will be fine, albeit taking money and jobs away from the UK and over to the EU - SMEs are screwed. Most likely unfortunately. It's funny how with all of these oversights, it's always the little guy that just so happens to be the one paying the price. Those at the helm are inept, but clearly not when it comes down to their own and their pals self interest.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 11 Feb 21 8.42am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Another tranche of shops closed and 2,450 jobs lost, not including the support workers. Shame for all staff laid off, however nothing to do with Brexit. Times are a changing, and the way we shop is changing at quite a pace
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| Mapletree Croydon 11 Feb 21 9.23am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Shame for all staff laid off, however nothing to do with Brexit. Times are a changing, and the way we shop is changing at quite a pace We have to switch to electric water heating and central heating in our houses. I've decided to pull that forward. I'll be popping round to your gaff to switch off the gas next Tuesday. I am sure that's fine with you.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 11 Feb 21 9.54am |
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The problems with the new trade rules are also impacting the ROI it will be interesting to see if the EU is happy to allow one of it's members to suffer just to stick it to the Brits. As for the Irish being an EU member up until has been a good thing. However from this year onward Ireland is likely to become a net contributor in taxes to the EU, this and the recent issues over the vaccine and trade lets see how much they love the EU going forwards. Oh I forgot the issue of fishing quotas as well, the Irish are now having the same problems as we did they think the EU is taking all their fish unfairly. Edited by Badger11 (11 Feb 2021 9.56am)
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