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Stirlingsays 08 Jun 18 1.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
It’s sad to see regression in any form in society. It seems that there are people out there on all sides who are hell bent on wrecking all the progress made over the last century in regards to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism doesn't work. It has never worked and it's people with ideologies like yours which have genuinely caused the destruction of social cohesion in the country. People with your views are like a child trying to force a triangle into a square shape and once they accept it doesn't fit then start blaming the shapes for not fitting. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2018 1.52pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 18 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General
It’s sad to see regression in any form in society. It seems that there are people out there on all sides who are hell bent on wrecking all the progress made over the last century in regards to multiculturalism. I'm not sure what planet you have been living on. Tribalism is inherent in humanity and always will be. I do not want to integrate with those who are driven by religious dogma and zealotry. They offer me nothing except ignorance, irrationality, servitude and division.
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dannyboy1978 08 Jun 18 6.09pm | |
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Ive never understood how a country can change its identity without asking the people. If in 1944 we had a referendum asking the people do we want to have multiculturalism, what do we think the answer would have been. A no. I'm just wondering who has benefited from this change. Croydon certainly hasn't!!
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dannyboy1978 08 Jun 18 6.22pm | |
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take the ethnicity of the top 20 countries and then drop in the ethnicity's of the lower countries , what do we think is going to happen? we arnt going to become better for it are we!!! otherwise those countries would have been at the top of list in the first place. Of coarse not everyone can be tared with the same brush as I am talking about groups of people generally. Edited by dannyboy1978 (08 Jun 2018 6.23pm)
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Stirlingsays 09 Jun 18 6.26am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Ive never understood how a country can change its identity without asking the people. If in 1944 we had a referendum asking the people do we want to have multiculturalism, what do we think the answer would have been. A no. I'm just wondering who has benefited from this change. Croydon certainly hasn't!!
Seconded. What you are talking about is wisdom....and unfortunately that's not a virtue which idealogs have. They believe in utopias of human co-habitation that have never worked....short term fixes that make no long term sense....but they don't care, they aren't going to have to deal with the mess. Europeans crafted themselves out a high living standard but have had recent leaders hell bent on the unknowing destruction and elimination of themselves. A few generations down the line, they will be cursed for it.....well intelligent people who have bothered to look at this are already troubled about it.....What is it? On current levels the white Britons will be a minority in Britain by 2060......At what point do you carry on with calling a country Britain or England when the English or Britons aren't the dominant culture there? Your point of the disaster of mass immigration to the country in terms of the original culture is a salient point. Everytime you hear a lying politician preface every comment on immigration with waffle about its benefits is because they have to sell that lie to normies. Countries like Japan have seen the stupidity of this action and rejected it out of hand. So in a hundred years, when people look at Japan....they will see Japan....and not some grey meaningless discordant mix. The ideological left and the economic right are destroyers of worlds. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2018 6.37am)
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Midlands Eagle 09 Jun 18 8.46am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Everytime you hear a lying politician preface every comment on immigration with waffle about its benefits is because they have to sell that lie to normies. I consider myself to be a "normie" but I've never believed anything about the benefits of a multicultural society with the exception of the staffing of Indian and Chinese restaurants. There is of course the old chestnut that the NHS would fall apart without doctors and nurses from overseas but why can't we attract the indigenous population to train and fill these positions?
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Stirlingsays 09 Jun 18 9.18am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I consider myself to be a "normie" but I've never believed anything about the benefits of a multicultural society with the exception of the staffing of Indian and Chinese restaurants. There is of course the old chestnut that the NHS would fall apart without doctors and nurses from overseas but why can't we attract the indigenous population to train and fill these positions? Low level immigration was never going to be an issue. It's a percentages game. It's just a matter of statistics and intelligent people understanding and caring about what statistics and time bring. Sensible politicians who weren't just in it for the short term would understand the important of birth demographics and mono-culture dominance for social cohesion. Countries like the much maligned Israel, Japan and certain Eastern European countries already understand this and highlight the need for their native populations to have birth rates that ensure they stay majorities......in their own countries. A lot of people are sleep walking their children into a difficult future. They actually trusted and believed the politicians with all that idealistic waffle.
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dannyboy1978 09 Jun 18 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Low level immigration was never going to be an issue. It's a percentages game. It's just a matter of statistics and intelligent people understanding and caring about what statistics and time bring. Sensible politicians who weren't just in it for the short term would understand the important of birth demographics and mono-culture dominance for social cohesion. Countries like the much maligned Israel, Japan and certain Eastern European countries already understand this and highlight the need for their native populations to have birth rates that ensure they stay majorities......in their own countries. A lot of people are sleep walking their children into a difficult future. They actually trusted and believed the politicians with all that idealistic waffle. And where are the politicians of the 90's who started it! Not living in our society or the society they created. I strongly believe there will be a power shift within the United kingdom.
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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 18 11.40am | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
And where are the politicians of the 90's who started it! Not living in our society or the society they created. I strongly believe there will be a power shift within the United kingdom. We will have policy dictated by powerful minority lobby just like the USA.
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Badger11 Beckenham 09 Jun 18 11.50am | |
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As another poster said its a numbers game. No one should mind if a nice (insert country of origin) couple move in next door. However when the whole street changes in a few short years that does tend to upset people. My father now lives in Norfolk on a new housing estate. Most his neighbours are white (including him) British from the south east. This has not gone down well with the good folk of Norfolk. Now there isn't rioting on the streets but there is resentment that "local" people cannot afford homes due to the low wages and that they are being snapped up by "retired" outsiders. If the interlopers were non white I guess people would be calling the locals racist, when all they are really doing is complaining that there has been a rapid change in their neighbourhood and that young people are having to move out of the area. I grew up on a council estate where everybody knew each other if not by name certainly by face. It was a a happy stable area with virtually no crime as the adults policed it and would tell a neighbour if their kids were misbehaving. I suspect the type of area where people stay close to their families even when they leave home is fast disappearing. That is not the fault of immigration but large numbers of newcomers each year doesn't help.
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Park Road 09 Jun 18 12.38pm | |
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serial thriller The Promised Land 09 Jun 18 1.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Low level immigration was never going to be an issue. It's a percentages game. It's just a matter of statistics and intelligent people understanding and caring about what statistics and time bring. Sensible politicians who weren't just in it for the short term would understand the important of birth demographics and mono-culture dominance for social cohesion. Countries like the much maligned Israel, Japan and certain Eastern European countries already understand this and highlight the need for their native populations to have birth rates that ensure they stay majorities......in their own countries. A lot of people are sleep walking their children into a difficult future. They actually trusted and believed the politicians with all that idealistic waffle. But the interesting thing here is who is 'they' and who is other. Britain, going on current demographics, will be a minority majority country by 2050. That sounds shocking, but of course contextually it is anything but. Britain, and its citizenry, was composed vastly of black and brown people all the way up until the 1960s when we relinquished the last of our colonies. The people in them were British citizens; they were governed by British politicians and their labour contributed towards the British economy enormously. What you seem to be referring to, and this is a common theme throughout British white nationalist argumentation, is the ethnic composition of those on the island. While we were fine forcing citizenship upon hundreds of millions of black and brown people for hundreds of years, making them work for us, torturing, killing and violently repressing them, as soon as they approached our shores - often perfectly legally and honestly, we began to worry about the failures of 'multiculturalism' and 'migrants', in complete amnesia as to why many of these people saw this as home, and to our unique historical role in their culture's life. Your 'native' population, I assume, doesn't include the millions off pakistanis whose families have called Britain their rulers for 250 years, or the Jamaicans who have been ruled by Her Majesty for longer than the Scots! It does, however, probably include me, a unquestionably native person whose grandparents were mostly Irish.
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