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elgrande bedford 29 Oct 17 4.13pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 So all six manned moon landing were faked? Also Appollo 13 was just pretending to be a near disaster? Were all the Russian space exploits faked? Was Yuri Gagarin really the first man into space? Is it just the wicked capitalist USA who would pretend to land on the moon at enormous cost just to say 'we did it!' with no other obvious advantage accruing from it. Well why if they had that sort of know then to do that,why has it not evolved to take man further...1969,get your head round that,almost 50 years ago..I was 10 and as gobsmacked as any kid watching it on tv(or was I). Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm) always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 29 Oct 17 4.13pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

So all six manned moon landing were faked? Also Appollo 13 was just pretending to be a near disaster? Were all the Russian space exploits faked?
Was Yuri Gagarin really the first man into space? Is it just the wicked capitalist USA who would pretend to land on the moon at enormous cost just to say 'we did it!' with no other obvious advantage accruing from it.

Well why if they had that sort of know then to do that,why has it not evolved to take man further...1969,get your head round that,almost 50 years ago..I was 10 and as gobsmacked as any kid watching it on tv(or was I).

Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Oct 17 4.34pm
Originally posted by elgrande Well why if they had that sort of know then to do that,why has it not evolved to take man further...1969,get your head round that,almost 50 years ago..I was 10 and as gobsmacked as any kid watching it on tv(or was I). Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm) They went for the Spacestaion instead. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Oct 17 4.34pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm)

They went for the Spacestaion instead.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Stirlingsays 29 Oct 17 4.40pm
Originally posted by elgrande Well why if they had that sort of know then to do that,why has it not evolved to take man further...1969,get your head round that,almost 50 years ago..I was 10 and as gobsmacked as any kid watching it on tv(or was I). Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm) Nasa's budget in the sixties to reach the Moon was over four percent of the US's federal spending budget after Kennedy died. Since the mid seventies it's been under one percent except for 91 where it was a tiny bit over. It's been under half a percent of spending since 06. Priorities......You've seen on here that many people question why they do even as much as they do. Attachment: Nasabudget.JPG (65.22Kb) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Oct 17 4.40pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Edited by elgrande (29 Oct 2017 4.14pm)

Nasa's budget in the sixties to reach the Moon was over four percent of the US's federal spending budget after Kennedy died.

Since the mid seventies it's been under one percent except for 91 where it was a tiny bit over. It's been under half a percent of spending since 06.

Priorities......You've seen on here that many people question why they do even as much as they do.

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elgrande bedford 29 Oct 17 5.59pm
Hey I'm not saying it didnt happen,and have no real argument to say it didnt. Just my personal view... always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 29 Oct 17 5.59pm

Hey I'm not saying it didnt happen,and have no real argument to say it didnt.

Just my personal view...

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 29 Oct 17 6.00pm
You should all listen to the judica-cordiglia brothers recordings. I have no idea if they're hoaxers or not but the recordings of Russian cosmonauts seemingly dying in space are quite chilling. Yuri Gagarin allegedly wasn't the first. The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Behind you 29 Oct 17 6.00pm

You should all listen to the judica-cordiglia brothers recordings.

I have no idea if they're hoaxers or not but the recordings of Russian cosmonauts seemingly dying in space are quite chilling.
Yuri Gagarin allegedly wasn't the first.

The mountains are calling & I must go.

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elgrande bedford 29 Oct 17 6.00pm
P.s. hedge can you take me off your list please. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 29 Oct 17 6.00pm

P.s. hedge can you take me off your list please.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Oct 17 6.22pm
Originally posted by elgrande P.s. hedge can you take me off your list please. Only if you write a hundred times: "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Oct 17 6.22pm

Originally posted by elgrande

P.s. hedge can you take me off your list please.

Only if you write a hundred times:
"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 17 6.33pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 So all six manned moon landing were faked? Also Appollo 13 was just pretending to be a near disaster? Were all the Russian space exploits faked? Was Yuri Gagarin really the first man into space? Is it just the wicked capitalist USA who would pretend to land on the moon at enormous cost just to say 'we did it!' with no other obvious advantage accruing from it. This is a very poor argument. The Russians never went to the Moon because their attempts at a moon rocket all blew up. They had a head start on the US and still failed. Apollo 13 had problems on the way to the Moon so is not really a valid piece of evidence. Yuri Gagarin might not have been the first man in space as it is rumoured that the USSR had conducted other flight in secret before that. The Moon landings were a huge propaganda win for Amrica since Russia had done things first up uuntil then. Sputnik scared he s*** out of Americans. Calm down. You just need to wait until someone else goes to the Moon and gets a close up of those old landing sights with all their undisturbed footprints and tyre tracks. That is unless the aliens have tidied up.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50

This is a very poor argument. The Russians never went to the Moon because their attempts at a moon rocket all blew up. They had a head start on the US and still failed.
Apollo 13 had problems on the way to the Moon so is not really a valid piece of evidence. Yuri Gagarin might not have been the first man in space as it is rumoured that the USSR had conducted other flight in secret before that.
The Moon landings were a huge propaganda win for Amrica since Russia had done things first up uuntil then. Sputnik scared he s*** out of Americans.

Calm down. You just need to wait until someone else goes to the Moon and gets a close up of those old landing sights with all their undisturbed footprints and tyre tracks. That is unless the aliens have tidied up.

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 17 6.34pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Only if you write a hundred times: "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." He even got that wrong. The pressure of a TV studio I suppose.
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Hrolf The Ganger

29 Oct 17 6.34pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Only if you write a hundred times:
"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

He even got that wrong. The pressure of a TV studio I suppose.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 29 Oct 17 7.44pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This is a very poor argument. The Russians never went to the Moon because their attempts at a moon rocket all blew up. They had a head start on the US and still failed. Apollo 13 had problems on the way to the Moon so is not really a valid piece of evidence. Yuri Gagarin might not have been the first man in space as it is rumoured that the USSR had conducted other flight in secret before that. The Moon landings were a huge propaganda win for Amrica since Russia had done things first up uuntil then. Sputnik scared he s*** out of Americans. Calm down. You just need to wait until someone else goes to the Moon and gets a close up of those old landing sights with all their undisturbed footprints and tyre tracks. That is unless the aliens have tidied up. So you accept that Appollo 13 took off and went round the moon. Why wouldn't they fake that too? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 29 Oct 17 7.44pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you accept that Appollo 13 took off and went round the moon. Why wouldn't they fake that too?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 17 8.04pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 So you accept that Appollo 13 took off and went round the moon. Why wouldn't they fake that too? I can't accept your spelling of Apollo. I'm not sure if it ever went to the Moon but any of the other missions could have and not landed on the Moon. The landing and taking off bit was probably the hardest part and the one you couldn't do for real before he event. I'm just playing Devil's advocate. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2017 8.06pm)
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29 Oct 17 8.04pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

So you accept that Appollo 13 took off and went round the moon. Why wouldn't they fake that too?

I can't accept your spelling of Apollo.

I'm not sure if it ever went to the Moon but any of the other missions could have and not landed on the Moon.

The landing and taking off bit was probably the hardest part and the one you couldn't do for real before he event.

I'm just playing Devil's advocate.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2017 8.06pm)

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Stirlingsays 29 Oct 17 8.27pm
Originally posted by elgrande Hey I'm not saying it didnt happen,and have no real argument to say it didnt. Just my personal view... Nothing wrong with saying what you think. I suppose I'm just putting information out there. If I'm wrong about something I've accepted as true and someone can show me how I'm wrong then they perform a service for me. Truth is more important than ego. I'm open to debates on ideas, none of us hold any special insight into truth. We are all in darkness looking for glimpses of light with only our reason to understand it. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Oct 2017 8.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Oct 17 8.27pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Hey I'm not saying it didnt happen,and have no real argument to say it didnt.

Just my personal view...

Nothing wrong with saying what you think. I suppose I'm just putting information out there.

If I'm wrong about something I've accepted as true and someone can show me how I'm wrong then they perform a service for me. Truth is more important than ego.

I'm open to debates on ideas, none of us hold any special insight into truth. We are all in darkness looking for glimpses of light with only our reason to understand it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Oct 2017 8.29pm)

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