Between 1994 and March 2012, there had been 361,015 murders in all of South Africa and between 1990 and March 2012, there had been an estimated 1,544 murders on South African farms of which 208 of the victims were Black. The last government analysis of farm attack victims by race was conducted in 2001. In their report, the police’s Crime Information Analysis Centre revealed that of the 1,398 people attacked on farms, 61.6% were white, 33.3% were black, 4.4% were Asian and 0.7% were listed as “other”. Statistics of race are no longer collected.

[Good on Flower and Olonga by the way]

Edited by hedgehog50 (29 Sep 2017 10.23am)

Kind of irrelevant, they should, but that's not what's being discussed here - Plus they're not being killed by the police. Only the state holds lawful ownership of force.

The fact that any country has unreliable data on the number of people killed by its police force in itself is a f**king disgrace - Let alone in a western democracy. this isn't South Africa, the United States of America.

It just goes to show how f**king poor police oversight is, if the government cannot determine how many people died as a result of police action, when it can determine death rates from disease (The CDC is prevented from tracking fire arm deaths in the US)

this isn't South Africa, the United States of America.

It just goes to show how f**king poor police oversight is, if the government cannot determine how many people died as a result of police action, when it can determine death rates from disease (The CDC is prevented from tracking fire arm deaths in the US)

The problem here is the disproportion of concern by certain political groups.

We have police no go zones, gang related violence on an epic scale, drug addiction like never before, endemic criminality and yet the majority are meant to focus on death by policeman. The very same policemen who protect that majority from all the aforementioned.

If they're police no go zones, how are the police protecting people. And yes, we should be focused on incidents in which agents operating in the name of the state kill people who are not a threat or are unarmed.

The police are there to deal with the other problems, which are criminal, but that doesn't entitle them to a pass for killing people unnecessarily, or resorting to lethal force if they're feeling threatened.

The complaints here aren't about the police shooting gun totting gangsta's... Its that they're shooting people in very questionable scenarios, people that often they should be protecting.